trump impeachment watch thread

[ChumpDumper]

It doesn't take a lawyer to know that none of the witnesses called have provided any proof of a quid pro quo.

Yeah, Dennison did that himself.

[TSA]

If Trash/Tom Hagen think the transcript vindicates Trash, why hide the full transcript in a top secret natsec machine?

Echoes of the Russian investigation: forgetting, lying, obstructing, acting guilty, as accurately suspected.

TSA and other deplorables fall for it, defend it, every time.

The changes came months after entire transcripts of Trump’s calls with the leaders of Australia and Mexico were leaked to The Washington Post, setting off a furious internal search for the source of the unauthorized disclosures and widening the mistrust between the president and his staff.

Before the upgrade, the White House began restricting the distribution of the transcripts of the president’s calls with foreign leaders to a narrower group of officials. Before that, the transcripts had been put on a shared drive that all NSC staffers had access to, which made it easier for leaks to happen, according to a former Trump White House official.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...ks-code-015194

"Vindman testified that the White House's rough transcript was mostly accurate in describing the contents of the July 25 phone call between Trump and Zelensky aside from the edits he wanted to make."

"Sources from both parties told CNN that the changes were not seen as significant."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/polit...ipt/index.html

[Spurminator]

It doesn't take a lawyer to know that none of the witnesses called have provided any proof of a quid pro quo.

Regardless of your selective standards of proof, this is why they are impeachment proceedings.

[ChumpDumper]

The changes came months after entire transcripts of Trump’s calls with the leaders of Australia and Mexico were leaked to The Washington Post, setting off a furious internal search for the source of the unauthorized disclosures and widening the mistrust between the president and his staff.

Before the upgrade, the White House began restricting the distribution of the transcripts of the president’s calls with foreign leaders to a narrower group of officials. Before that, the transcripts had been put on a shared drive that all NSC staffers had access to, which made it easier for leaks to happen, according to a former Trump White House official.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...ks-code-015194

"Vindman testified that the White House's rough transcript was mostly accurate in describing the contents of the July 25 phone call between Trump and Zelensky aside from the edits he wanted to make."

"Sources from both parties told CNN that the changes were not seen as significant."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/polit...ipt/index.html

Trump could, you know, take the actual transcript off his top secret server and let us all read it.

Why not?

Why do he and you and all the other Trumpistas have to lie about the memo?

[LkrFan]

[LkrFan]

Senate Republicans are taking the House impeachment proceedings against President Trump more seriously as damaging revelations against the president mount and the possibility of a quick dismissal of the charges shrinks.

Earlier this year, GOP senators pledged to quickly quash any articles of impeachment passed by the House. But as the Democrats compile more evidence that Trump withheld military assistance from Ukraine to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, they are adopting a more sober tone.

While no Senate Republican has said the charges against Trump rise to the level of being an impeachable offense, many have expressed concern over the drip-drip of damaging revelations.

Vote for impeachment, Trump snitches on all the Rs that are paid off by Russian Oligarchs via the NRA.

Vote no on impeachment, then the Senate turns Blue in 2020.

Times of the essence for them to make a decision.

Tick tock R MFers

[LkrFan]

[ChumpDumper]

That was ridiculous. Forced out because of revenge porn.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump could, you know, take the actual transcript off his top secret server and let us all read it.

Why not?

Why do he and you and all the other Trumpistas have to lie about the memo?

Case in point:

[SnakeBoy]

That was ridiculous. Forced out because of revenge porn.

Those pockmarks tho.

[ChumpDumper]

Those pockmarks tho.

I didn't say anything about her looks. Do you want to discuss her looks?

Yes or no.

[hater]

Vote for impeachment, Trump snitches on all the Rs that are paid off by Russian Oligarchs via the NRA.

Vote no on impeachment, then the Senate turns Blue in 2020.

Times of the essence for them to make a decision.

Tick tock R MFers

thinking anything besides this thing getting a quick death in the senate

boy are you in for a dissapointment

[vy65]

"Vindman testified that the White House's rough transcript was mostly accurate in describing the contents of the July 25 phone call between Trump and Zelensky aside from the edits he wanted to make."

muh feelings

You didn't answer the question. Vindman was concerned and thought what was said inappropriate. Don't deflect; how are you more qualified than he to opine on the proprietary of the call?

[vy65]

hearsay

Quickly moving goal posts. Eyewitness to a call and the statements being hearsay are not mutually exclusive.

If this were a trial, think you could keep any of what I posted out of evidence?

[djohn2oo8]

[Chris]

Uneducated partisan re s arguing with a lawyer. You love to see it.

Go suck some lawyer micropenis

[ChumpDumper]

Go suck some lawyer micropenis

^gutter tier

[djohn2oo8]

[vy65]

Chirp chirp es

[hater]

im pretty sure many lawyers thought Mueller investigation was a slam dunk

[RandomGuy]

You failed to answer the question.

The Obama administration asked intelligence agencies in Australia, UK, and Italy to dig for dirt on Trump and his campaign. Western intelligence spies were sent to dig dirt on Trump and his campaign. The FBI, CIA, and DOJ we’re deployed to dig for dirt on Trump and his campaign. FISA warrants were sought to dig dirt on Trump and his campaign. You didn’t give a when any of this happened.

What changed?

=5th time
Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.

Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.

The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 2nd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 3rd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[repeats denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 4th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, posts tweets]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 5th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, posts tweets deflecting from central question of impeachment]

Not really an answer to my question.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. [6th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, answers other posts]

People who cannot answer honest, fair questions are dishonest sophists.

TSA cannot answer answer honest, fair questions.

TSA is a dishonest sophist.
QED

sophist[ sof-ist ]SHOW IPA
EXAMPLES|WORD ORIGINSEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR sophist ON THESAURUS.COM
noun
(often initial capital letter) Greek History.
any of a class of professional teachers in ancient Greece who gave instruction in various fields, as in general culture, rhetoric, politics, or disputation.
a person belonging to this class at a later period who, while professing to teach skill in reasoning, concerned himself with ingenuity and specious effectiveness rather than soundness of argument.
a person who reasons adroitly and speciously rather than soundly.

The early manifestation of Dunning-Kruger.

Why are you dishonest here?

I already told you I’m not interested in playing your game of hypotheticals just to circle back to your original false claim.

I haven't made any claims yet in the course of this back and forth, dishonest sophist.

I have merely agreed with you:
Trump [should] be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents and Ukraine is dependent on the US for aid and support.

I am attempting to determine if that happened based on the facts we can both agree on.

You have not answered any questions that might establish facts relevant to that statement, because you are dishonest.

I am merely curious as to why you are dishonest here. Repeating your refusal to answer questions doesn't really tell me why you are dishonest.

Why are you dishonest here?

[vy65]

im pretty sure many lawyers thought Mueller investigation was a slam dunk

Just like you were sure WW3 was gonna happen

[RandomGuy]

The changes came months after entire transcripts of Trump’s calls with the leaders of Australia and Mexico were leaked to The Washington Post, setting off a furious internal search for the source of the unauthorized disclosures and widening the mistrust between the president and his staff.

Before the upgrade, the White House began restricting the distribution of the transcripts of the president’s calls with foreign leaders to a narrower group of officials. Before that, the transcripts had been put on a shared drive that all NSC staffers had access to, which made it easier for leaks to happen, according to a former Trump White House official.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...ks-code-015194

"Vindman testified that the White House's rough transcript was mostly accurate in describing the contents of the July 25 phone call between Trump and Zelensky aside from the edits he wanted to make."

"Sources from both parties told CNN that the changes were not seen as significant."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/polit...ipt/index.html

Why did Trump withhold the aid to Ukraine? Do tell.

[hater]

Just like you were sure WW3 was gonna happen

being a “lawyer” and being in totally wrong are not mutually exclusive

same thing being a “lawyer” and being a total ing clown(see michael avenatti).

[CosmicCowboy]

Yeah, Dennison did that himself.

So what is the status of the Biden Investigation in Ukraine? I haven't heard anything about it.