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Uh, he was the best player in SL. They literally shut him down after like 3 games because he was ting on everyone in Vegas.
He showed nothing in summer league, can't expect him to suddenly appear in an NBA game and be anything decent. Pop will give him time thoughout the season but only if he shows anything in practice, mainly effort and desire in the defensive end. If he doesn't, doghouse it is then.
Uh, he was the best player in SL. They literally shut him down after like 3 games because he was ting on everyone in Vegas.
My definition of best player is not the same as yours. Being the best player starts from the defensive end and i think Pop has the same mindset.
Best player is most dominant on the court. You can be great at defense but if you bring nothing to the offensive end you'll never last in the league.
My 's floor is Scottie Pippen TBH.
If he's a joke of an NBA player than at least half of the Spurs roster is...which might be the case
Who was responsible for drafting this guy. If he was going to be unplayable in pop eyes.
Spurs are getting no return and arnt exactly maximizing his trade value.
What's the point in drafting the best available if the coach can't adjust to a player such as Lonnie.
Drafting is a crap shot. Most of the people drafted below 15 have a relatively marginal NAB career, if any. You draft potential, and hope to develop it. In LW case, the potential is his superb body and nothing else, unfortunately. Every minute he gets, is a minute gifted to the opposing team. I really can't understand the fascination of many posters here for this guy, he can't play NBA basketball at all.
Because that's how he can prove he deserves more minutes. I would love for Lonnie to keep Belinelli's ass on the bench.
Now we know he wasn't the best available. By far.
At this point he’s hampered by fear of being yanked or not playing at all. Fear of pop and PT just isn’t a good recipe for this kid. They’re better off committing 15 minutes a night and living with his shortcomings. I’m fairly certain he would clean up a lot of his game with real in game experience and legitimate playing time.
He’s going to thrive somewhere else if he or the Spurs move on. His game is a good fit for today’s style.
His confidence is shot because of fear of being yanked... I said the same thing about white... But see what happened when pop was forced to play white? He was comfortable because he no longer was afraid on being yanked because he made a mistake...
I would have less of a problem with it if pop didn't give everyone else an endless chain... For goodness sake of Lonnie shot a 50 footer with 8 seconds left on the clock, Pop would bench him indefinitely
Go find Marco Belineli's SL stats. He was ridiculous. SL is trash compe ion.
I'm sorry but he just needs more playing time. I'm not saying he will magically become a better player but we just won't know. Its stupid that these other guys who just continue to make mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake are given a free pass just because of their past.
Give him at minimum 10 games with around 20 minutes of playing time and see if he progresses. But ideally I would say 20 to 30 games would be better.
Other jokes of NBA players currently on the Spurs: Forbes. Carrol. Mills. Marco.
Jokes of NBA players that can actually improve as the year goes on: LMA and Lonnie.
Most people knew this dumbass was going to be a failure as soon as he opened his mouth. He's just proving them right.
Look at Matisse Thybulle so far -- great D but shooting an astounding 24.1% from the field.
He's very raw. Not sure if that requires development in Austin, or just more run on the court. Not sure 2 random minutes, and getting yanked for screwing up, do a lot to build someone's confidence. If you play tentative and second guess yourself, of course you're going to look like crap. LMA might look horrible in limited action too.
Then again, if he's got no head for the game and plays scared, he probably doesn't have a place in the NBA.
I have to agree with all of this, unfortunately. Especially when Pop won't at least supplant both Beli & Walker IV with Carroll, who seems like he still has something in the tank unlike Marco.
Eventually, Belinelli's terrible play will either be permanent - I think this is very likely - or will start impact the outcome of games. Once that happens Walker IV or Carroll will take his minutes from him.....
The "antiquated" system plays right into the strengths Walker IV was displaying in Summer League. For whatever reason, his play and work from the summer hasn't translated to better play on the floor (in very, very limited minutes).
He needs to start making positive plays during his short stints so his minutes & confidence can build. The short leash he's on (and possibly being called out) might be in his head......
Also, if Johnson dominates in the G League or picks up the system fast enough, then I wouldn't be averse to him leapfrogging all three (Belinelli, Walker IV or Carroll) and getting a chance......
Last edited by J_Paco; 11-06-2019 at 12:04 PM.
A scrub sniffer called people pop sniffers in another thread.The first time in forever Pop has some athleticism on the roster and he forces them to play like an NBA team before black people were in the league.
ing retire.
when has he looked good?
The kid has more athletic skills than anybody in the team. The NBA game just needs to slow down on him and that takes time. He really needs Beli’s minutes tbh. Beli is shooting crap with no defense.
2 assist in 3 games, sorry defense and was a chucker.
and his ceiling is Gary Neal.
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