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    corrupt MoscowMitch says today the Repugs would try and acquit their corrupt law-breaking party leader

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    It’s kinda comical when you think about it. Historically, the Congress has acted as a check on executive power. Throw a dart at any random Federalist and you’ll see some concern about power consolidating in the executive and the need to have the other branches check that.

    A not guilty vote is essentially a ratification of the executive having the power to use the powers of office for his own (political) gain. That’s a pretty drastic departure from the original cons utional design. Question is whether that departure was inevitable.
    We had the British and the French both trying to influence us and our silly voting as well. Its bigger than just the branches of government exerting their own type of control. Its frkn outrageous. Even Trump's own ambassadorial choices, who gave to his campaign, are dumbfounded.

    The people listening in on that call had to have blood just drain from their body if they understood. Somebody needed to grab the phone and throw it at Trump and explain it to him immediately. Then the orange guy finds out what an fup it is, and thinks he can just admit it and all is fine. This sets a huge precedence for how an in bent or possibly even candidates can get an huge advantage in an election. Go ask the foreign countries for money and background info. Let them get their intelligence services firmly involved in our elections.

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    This is red team and it’s so stupid. From WSJ:

    But Trump and some of his closest allies have called for the individual's iden y to be publicly revealed, arguing that the president should have the ability to confront his accuser.


    Trump needs to release his own name for spouting off on the phone and whistleblowing with those false teeth and lying mouth.

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    This is red team and it’s so stupid. From WSJ:

    But Trump and some of his closest allies have called for the individual's iden y to be publicly revealed, arguing that the president should have the ability to confront his accuser.


    Trump needs to release his own name for spouting off on the phone and whistleblowing with those false teeth and lying mouth.
    We're way past the whistleblower...who cares now

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    Yeah I would want to sweep the whistle blower under the rug too if I had TDS

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    The Whistleblwer Shuld be Unmasked


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    Sixth Amendment

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence
    Impeachment is not a criminal prosecution (in fact a DOJ memo says the POTUS can’t be prosecuted); therefore the sixth amendment does not apply.

    Moreover, the whistler blower only brought facts to the attention of Congress. He is not a witness.
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    "Impeachment is not a criminal prosecution "

    ... Repugs are using criminal aspects to a strictly political action to confuse their ignorant base, convince them, stupidly easy, that the impeachment is illegit



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    Rand flexin on them hoes

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    Rand flexin on them hoes
    Rand Paul doesn’t want to touch that Ambassador Sondland testimony question with a 10 foot pole.

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    Rand flexin on them hoes
    what an idiot.

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    Rand flexin on them hoes
    lol he's a pussy

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    anticorruption...

    It dont matter what you call it to sound proper.
    He asked a foreign country to find out allegedly incriminating information on a political opponent for the presidency.

    You cant change that.

    Keep dog paddling while you sink.
    And used congressionally appropriated aid to do it.

    The aid package passed in February. The aid was finally released ~46 hours after the whistleblowers report went public sometime in September if I remember correctly.

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    Elected by KY jelly brains, Ayn Rand Paul playing look-at-me, formerly a HUGE privacy advocate.

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    6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots

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    6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots
    you're ING willfully confused and duped by Repug bull .

    6th amendment is for judicial trials, not political impeachment. so eternally G F Y

    The whistleblower's claim has been CONFESSED publicly by Trash himself AND IN CONGRESS.

    Whistleblower got the ball rolling, but Trash and others have kept rolling, and there is more to come.

    Why did WH secrete the FULL transcript in an isolated, code-word WH server intended for Nat Sec info?

    As always, Trash and has mafiya ACT guilty because they ARE guilty.
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    6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots
    Article I: The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

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    Rand flexin on them hoes
    he should reveal what he said to the sr citizen neighbor who gave him a beating and left him in the hospital lololol

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    And used congressionally appropriated aid to do it.

    The aid package passed in February. The aid was finally released ~46 hours after the whistleblowers report went public sometime in September if I remember correctly.
    And Guiliani has switched to radio silence. Lots of decorating to do, but Trump built the cake himself and the red team is dancing all around it because we know it’s really indefensible. Unless they want to consider this call proper conduct. And if that’s so, they might as well just keep the presidency in the Trump family and declare democracy dead. The red team can try to guide the line of kings and queen’s with the likes of McConell, Graham, Paul... should be a great comedy.

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    Unless they want to consider this call proper conduct.
    ... and that's exactly what many Repugs and Fox are saying.

    Extortion using taxpayer funds is not improper, and "none of anybody's business" (Pirro)

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    6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots
    Cite me a single case that the 6th Amendment applies to an impeachment proceeding.

    You can’t because it doesn’t.

    Stop lying tweetie bird.

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    ... and that's exactly what many Repugs and Fox are saying.

    Extortion using taxpayer funds is not improper, and "none of anybody's business" (Pirro)
    If the blue team uses this properly Trump goes down so hard in 2020.

    So it will be interesting to see what other mess the orange chaotic slime gets himself into between now and then that the red team must claim as normal business in a democracy. This is not going away and he has a tendency to just make things worse.

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