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    He had the whole class warfare (welfare queens!) figured out, but his actions had nothing to do with his rhetoric.

    How would a republican candidate today would sell his amnesty? That's a complete deal breaker.
    Rhetoric is all that matters. Figured that would be pretty clear looking at Trump's popularity with the GOP base.

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    I told you guys US wasn't ready for a progressive candidate - look at Warren's fall since her Medicare for All plan (what a bunch of pie in the sky rubbish - not raise middle class taxes, my foot) - at least Bernie is truthful about his plan. Looks like middle of the road Biden (with his bumbling) or But ieg are maintaining/gaining strength - still lots of time left. I say to that independent who claims that they will turn out for Warren or Bernie - bring it on. Even the dems at work would vote for Trump (or abstain from voting) if Warren/Bernie won the Dem nomination.

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    He had the whole class warfare (welfare queens!) figured out, but his actions had nothing to do with his rhetoric.

    How would a republican candidate today would sell his amnesty? That's a complete deal breaker.
    St Ronnie, a life-long racist, didn't figure out . His speeches were handed to him and he read them with his professional actor's voice.

    And of course, St Ronnie's Repugs were as lawless as Nixon's and Trash's.

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    That would be politically savvy for a party that didn't chase them down, split their families and call them rapists and criminals. In other words, with the current rampant xenophobia, it's impossible for a GOP candidate to sell amnesty.

    Why don't you ask your conservative peers here what they think about that?
    Bush II won 43% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. And it's not just because his nieces and nephews are Latinos. Moral wise, the average Hispanic is farther right than the average white person, when you take into account religion, family and social issues, etc. Bush had galvanized the socially conservative Latino vote.

    If it wasn't for the darn immigration crap. The GOP would have a solid 60-40 edge in national popular vote, California would be a toss up (still a little blue because of the hipsters tbh), NM/NV/AZ would be blowouts, and TX would never ever come into play in the future.

    If I'm the Republicans I let good Latino people in to the USA, and work towards adding the Latinos to the overall support base. Those that want to work, especially ty and hard labor type of jobs that the non-educated whites think that they're too good for...? A lot of them are really good family people, funny and friendly. There are more whites on welfare % per capita than Latinos in the USA.

    Latinos belong with the conservative whites in the GOP. It's time to galvanize them and focus on attacking the pinko commie ANTI got hipster pansexual white lib s. Synchronize moral allies and defeat far-left progressivism.

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    He did the right thing. That's what projecting power means: you go in, take care of business and get the out. You don't make the same mistake Russia did in Afghanistan, which was followed by his kid doing the same thing.
    It isn't the USA's ing business to tell a government half the world away what to do or not do unless they're a threat to US homeland security. It's not like Saddam was building nukes. "Humanitarian" crises have existed since prehistoric civilizations, and they're NOT the responsibility of the West.

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    He did the right thing. That's what projecting power means: you go in, take care of business and get the out. You don't make the same mistake Russia did in Afghanistan, which was followed by his kid doing the same thing.
    But there were no weapons of mass destruction. It was all Bibi Netanyahu bull ting the US to get involved.

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    But there were no weapons of mass destruction. It was all Bibi Netanyahu bull ting the US to get involved.
    I hate Islam as much as anyone, but dictators like Saddam, Gadhafi, Assad etc are probably the best case scenario for us. Those types don't base their regime on Islamic law and hatred of Western "kafireen". They also are pretty good at squelching guerrilla jihad like Al Qaeda and ISIS.

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    " take care of business and get the out."

    out? not really

    BigOil convinced Pappy to leave a huge military base in welcoming Saudi Arabia, which OBL considered as American boots defiling sacred SA sands, motivating OBL to retaliate.





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    I hate Islam as much as anyone, but dictators like Saddam, Gadhafi, Assad etc are probably the best case scenario for us. Those types don't base their regime on Islamic law and hatred of Western "kafireen". They also are pretty good at squelching guerrilla jihad like Al Qaeda and ISIS.
    But Gaddafi was a good man. If you believe everything the CIA spoon feeds you then you are naive.

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    Bush II won 43% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. And it's not just because his nieces and nephews are Latinos. Moral wise, the average Hispanic is farther right than the average white person, when you take into account religion, family and social issues, etc. Bush had galvanized the socially conservative Latino vote.

    If it wasn't for the darn immigration crap. The GOP would have a solid 60-40 edge in national popular vote, California would be a toss up (still a little blue because of the hipsters tbh), NM/NV/AZ would be blowouts, and TX would never ever come into play in the future.

    If I'm the Republicans I let good Latino people in to the USA, and work towards adding the Latinos to the overall support base. Those that want to work, especially ty and hard labor type of jobs that the non-educated whites think that they're too good for...? A lot of them are really good family people, funny and friendly. There are more whites on welfare % per capita than Latinos in the USA.

    Latinos belong with the conservative whites in the GOP. It's time to galvanize them and focus on attacking the pinko commie ANTI got hipster pansexual white lib s. Synchronize moral allies and defeat far-left progressivism.
    I've said it a lot of times, there's a wealth of untapped potential in the Latino votes for the GOP if they don't continually keep shooting themselves in the foot. Latinos are largely catholic and believers, family is a strong value for them, etc. McCain and Rubio get continually reviled here, but they were politically sound in their Gang of 8 proposal right after Obama won his second term.

    It's just difficult to see how all this recent damage (DACA especially) can be undone within a generation. Completely self-inflicted wound.

    At the same time, you have to admit that while not politically expedient, there's apparently a strong amount of xenophobia driven by rhetoric like 'expel the invaders' and such, which at some point has to be a true sentiment of part of the base. It's hard to tell if it's genuine or not though, tbh, that bunch is extremely dumb, would probably jump off a cliff if told to do so.

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    It isn't the USA's ing business to tell a government half the world away what to do or not do unless they're a threat to US homeland security. It's not like Saddam was building nukes. "Humanitarian" crises have existed since prehistoric civilizations, and they're NOT the responsibility of the West.
    They invaded Qatar at the time, that's why we went in. It basically disrupted the oil supply. Completely different situation than what followed.

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    But there were no weapons of mass destruction. It was all Bibi Netanyahu bull ting the US to get involved.
    You're talking dubya. My comment was about his dad, Bush Sr, which simply repelled the invasion of Qatar by Iraq and GTFO.

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    " take care of business and get the out."

    out? not really

    BigOil convinced Pappy to leave a huge military base in welcoming Saudi Arabia, which OBL considered as American boots defiling sacred SA sands, motivating OBL to retaliate.

    He should've attacked the base then. There's no excuse for what OBL did. Just as there's no excuse for the followup.

    Iraq invaded Qatar, and once kicked out, it needed to be monitored. That was the right action. Invading Iraq was a cluster .

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    I told you guys US wasn't ready for a progressive candidate - look at Warren's fall since her Medicare for All plan (what a bunch of pie in the sky rubbish - not raise middle class taxes, my foot) - at least Bernie is truthful about his plan. Looks like middle of the road Biden (with his bumbling) or But ieg are maintaining/gaining strength - still lots of time left. I say to that independent who claims that they will turn out for Warren or Bernie - bring it on. Even the dems at work would vote for Trump (or abstain from voting) if Warren/Bernie won the Dem nomination.
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    smh old white people

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    Joe Biden's weirdness and creepiness can't be hidden forever. Unless the DNC strategy is to get Biden nominated and lose to Trump, Biden néeds to retire from politics and spend more time with bis family. Better for everyone, tbh.

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    Joe Biden's weirdness and creepiness can't be hidden forever. Unless the DNC strategy is to get Biden nominated and lose to Trump, Biden néeds to retire from politics and spend more time with bis family. Better for everyone, tbh.
    can’t blame this one on det stutter

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    Iraq invaded Qatar, and once kicked out, it needed to be monitored. That was the right action. Invading Iraq was a cluster .
    Kuwait

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    smh old white people
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    Biden: “I love kids jumping on my lap."

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