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    Like I said a few times, I'm partial to Derrick Favors myself, and we do need another big to compliment Tim Duncan. Plus I don't think the Nets plan to keep him anyway. If they can get Amare or Boozer, I think that increases their chances of trading him. IMO, the Spurs need to see what it would take to get his rights from New Jersey.
    For some reason I could see something like this happening, the Nets owner seems pretty crazy/out there.

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    It's not love.

    No one here is whispering sweet nothings in R.J's ear.

    The reality is he is the best guaranteed option the Spurs have.

    That is where the love ends.
    Yeah. I get that. I'm just not sure what that begins. Signing RJ to a medium length contract when he'd really rather be somewhere else...this is how we start our dream of winning one more le?

    Will Tiago sign here and be a player - uncertain. Will our first round draft pick be a player - uncertain. Will RJ disappont - fairly certain.

    If RJ signs for less than 5 million a year, then the expectations will be lower and he'll probably play better with less pressure. But he wants more money so that creates a tension.

    As many people have said, doing a sign and trade is probably the best option. Hopefully RC can work some magic somehow.

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    all for giving time to someone that will value it.
    I 2nd this. Anderson/Hairston/Gee working their asses off to contribute will be infinitely better than the mediocrity RJ provided. Yes I know he was the 4th option, but many games he played without one of the big 3 during the season, and he couldn't even average double digits in the POs, for s sake.

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    I 2nd this. Anderson/Hairston/Gee working their asses off to contribute will be infinitely better than the mediocrity RJ provided. Yes I know he was the 4th option, but many games he played without one of the big 3 during the season, and he couldn't even average double digits in the POs, for s sake.

    No! We Spurs fans demand that RJ be signed to $10 million a year for 3-5 years! RJ's complete failure in what turned out to be a contract year must be rewarded! We need those 9 points a game and soft play!

    We need Bonner back too.

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    Yeah. I get that. I'm just not sure what that begins. Signing RJ to a medium length contract when he'd really rather be somewhere else.
    Yes I'm sure Jefferson would sign with the Spurs if he didn't want to be here.

    And don't give me, " Well then why did he opt-out?" He opted out so he can take advantage of this summer before the league makes significant changes to the CBA and the cap.


    But he wants more money so that creates a tension.

    Yes I'm sure R.J would throw fits and not want to play for the rest of the year, after signing a new 30 million dollar contract with a contender.

    As many people have said, doing a sign and trade is probably the best option. Hopefully RC can work some magic somehow.
    Enlightenment me on this best option, please.

    For your dream scenario to play out:

    You have to go through each of these steps to logically think about this scenario.

    1) You got to find a team willing to sign Jefferson. Meaning they have to have a hole to fill at the SF position and have the cap space to sign him. Or they must have a player of less ability that they are willing to part with in a sign and trade ( meaning Spurs aren't the real winners in a player for player sign and trade swap).

    2)This team must have a player that they are willing to part with, and that fits the Spurs better than R.J. and that would be more productive being the 4th option.

    3) If there is a trade exception being sent to the Spurs ( instead of a player), what are realistic possibilities for such a move on both sides? * In case you didn't know- there's only a handful of scenarios that actually make some sense on both sides*

    You have to go through all these three steps and find matches in every aspect. That my friend is a long-shot and that is why the Spurs are interested in resigning Jefferson because he is the best-most realistic option.

    Spurs would be fools to let Jefferson walk, in hopes of finding such a dream scenario where the Spurs net a better piece.

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    Teams under the cap best interest is to do a S&T because they can have a contract with 10.5% raises instead of 8%

    If RJ sign a $40M/5 years contract, the starting salary will be $6.90M with a 8% raise contract and $6.61M with a 10.5% raise contract. Doing a sign and trade will spare $300K in cap space.

    A S&T of RJ for a 2017 top 59 protected second round pick woudl be great because it would create a big TE for Spurs. Spurs can even get a bigger TE by packaging Hairston and/or Jerrells with RJ.
    Bruno is the MVP me thinks.

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    Personally I would prefer a S&T and RJ might prefer that too since he has publicly stated he is not a good fit with the Spurs. I have very limited hopes that RJ becomes better for us next season if he stays. However, if he walks for nothing that would obviously be the worst scenario since he is better than nothing and better than D-league caliber players.

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    Crucify them, Manu4Tres. Send those idiots to the tree of woe.

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    I agree with objective's basic points.

    I think the outpouring of love for RJ is bizarre. Perhaps it isn't love, but an insane number of words are being written in his defense. I agree that without him we are not a better team, but with him we aren't exactly contenders either. Everyone hated him all year. Now that he opted out on us everyone has fallen in love with signing him to a multiple year deal. And these are the same people who usually talk in defense of Holt's money as if it were their own. Personally, I don't care if Holt saves money or not - I care about the product on the court - but signing RJ to a 4 year deal makes even me wince.

    Luckily, the Spurs are patient and typically cheap. When RJ slumps back with his head between his legs he'll take whatever scraps the Spurs give him. I think that's the best thing that can happen. If they feel they need to sign him, hopefully it's cheap to give us more spending options elsewhere, and its for a short contract so that he can opt out again and see who else is in love with him.

    I don't think anyone's in love with the idea of RJ returning.

    But he sure looks like a good option when the alternative is Hairston and Gee at the three next season.

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    I don't think anyone's in love with the idea of RJ returning.

    But he sure looks like a good option when the alternative is Hairston and Gee at the three next season.
    Exactly. Spurs have exactly no money to spend on any decent free agents if they hope to bring Splitter over. RJ is the best option for starting 3.

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