I am absolutely more confident in our refugee screening process than our gun screening process. I don't see how anyone could be otherwise. There's no 18-24 month waiting period on gun sales that I'm aware of, or any strict limitations on how many guns we will sell, or nearly as stringent an interview process as we have with refugees, or any kind of monitoring process after the sale (unless of course, they kill someone and we can trace it back to the gun.)
And the results speak for themselves.
It takes years to complete the process of immigrating as a Syrian refugee. It takes hours or days to get a gun. Perhaps that is why nobody has died at the hands of a Syrian refugee yet thousands die by legally owned guns.
Didnt Roof get his guns because the background check wasn't complete within 3 days? I don't suppose you want to lengthen the 3 day maximum waiting period for guns.
I wait 10 days for guns.
You still haven't said why you have more faith in a refugee screening process than James Comey seems to have.
Comey and friends are using Paris to say mass surveillance of the planet and crypto backdoors are needed, although they can't say they've proved useful. those guys.
quota is 80K refugees EVERY year, has been going on for years, why haven't terrorist used that path?
That isn't even close to what he said.
Are you referring to this quote?
Well duh. Nobody can ever offer absolute assurance there is no risk associated to anything. This has you all tied up in knots?“I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”
I could post article after article of Comey quotes questioning the effectiveness of the screening process along with the failures of screening Iraqi refugees of whom we had tons more intel on, but that isn't needed as you have already read all of this.
Again, why do you have more confidence in the screening process than Comey does?
Post them.
Comey is a right-wing hack, a legacy of the disastrous Bush admin. I don't trust anything he says.
Then who has instilled your confidence in the screening process?
I don't trust government officials spewing nonsense. I trust facts. And the facts show no Syrian refugee has killed any Americans.
The facts also show that people legally buy guns and subsequently kill people with said guns.
Why are you so focused on demonizing Syrian refugees who don't kill Americans, yet ignore the thousands of deaths of Americans directly attributable to legal gun ownership?
Hannity was such a on his show today about this topic... I watched for comedic purposes obv...
Holy TSA is terrified.
He still won't say what he is going to do about the Syrian refugees living in his area.
For all practical purposes, yes.
If the FBI director wants to stop the intake, I would like to see that quote.
TSA, Darren, etc have reflexively sucked down the Repug propaganda and FUD about Syrian refugees gonna destroy America.
and yes, if only states would vet guy buyers so thoroughly
Repugs/VRWC run totally on FUD, distortions, LIES, bullying, propaganda to hide their real motivation, which in this case isn't "ISIS refugees gonna kill us all", but "We OBSTRUCT everything Obama"
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... and which laughable TURD from the Repug Klown Kar do you want as a replacement?
rightwingnuts NEVER met a paranoia they wouldn't subscribe to, esp not the ones from the NRA, VRWC, Repug, Beck/Limbaugh, etc.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...accept-US.html
http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...paris-attacks/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...rian-refugees/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...es-from-syria/
http://nypost.com/2015/11/17/uncle-s...pathetic-joke/
https://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lacke...ews-talk-shows
And a reminder of how great our screening process is on refugees from Iraq that we had ample data on to cross reference compared to Syrian refugees
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qae...ry?id=20931131
terrified
This coming from the guy who has exhaustively studied the screening process and knows the exact numbers and whereabouts of each Syrian refugee now in the United States, but yeah, you aren't terrified.
Of the 65,000 refugees what percent of terrorists slipping through is an acceptable number for you?
All of those articles revolve around his "ripple in the pond" statement, which is followed by his "I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.". Well duh. Nobody can guarantee 100% no risk associated with anything. You might shoot your off the next time you fellate one of your guns.
Does the benefit outweigh the risk?
Past generations have accepted great burdens to do the right thing, i.e. the Union's smashing of the confederacy, the revolution itself that threw off the British, as well as WW1 and WW2.
A few people get killed by some psychopathic nutters and we lose our minds with fear. "keep us safe" at the cost of becoming a nation of cowards.
Funny thing about the whole thing is that the kind of stupidity that the Republican party is pushing is exactly what ISIS wants.
http://www.economist.com/news/leader...how-fight-backFirst, know thy enemy
IS bases its terrorism on a vicious calculation. It believes that successful attacks will inspire the would-be Muslim radicals that it is trying to recruit. But it also wants to provoke a backlash in order to convince those same radicals that the world despises them and their religion. In February IS propaganda described a “greyzone” in which some Muslims’ loyalty is divided between radical Islam and a country where they do not feel that they completely belong. IS wants terrorism to drive Muslims out of this greyzone and into the black-robed embrace of the Caliphate.
Republicans are willing to part with encryption, privacy and allow themselves to be monitored 24/7. But God forbid we allow 3 year old Syrians inside our borders
I would say the risk is quite small, so yes. Listen this interview at the 5:30 mark if you want to hear why. This guy spent a week with them, he knows what he's talking about.
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