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    Still Hates Small Ball Spurminator's Avatar
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    Nothing, but it is naive to think that the casting crew just went: "heck, let's just cast the best guy available regardless of colour". They knew they were going for a black guy since the get go.
    You don't know that. What other black guys did they consider?

    Maybe they knew they were going for Idris Elba from the get-go. The rumors have been around for years.

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    but I think that, instead of transforming old characters, it would be better to come up with new characters and stories.
    That didn't really work


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    James Bond franchise would not survive such a stunt

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    James Bond franchise would not survive such a stunt
    Lmaoooooo

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    On a serious note, it's a catch 22


    Project black men in a negative light: alcoholic womanizer
    or
    Change Bond's behavior and piss off the fans

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    On a serious note, it's a catch 22


    Project black men in a negative light: alcoholic womanizer
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    Change Bond's behavior and piss off the fans
    Sup infinite limit

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    Sup infinite limit
    I finally returned. I notice changes here and mostly positive

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    Mi 6 is straight up evil. I would watch Idis Elba agent of Botswana some KGB and CIA agents up. That woudl be fun.

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    This is nbd as Idris would kill it as Bond. True tragedy hollywood caving in and casting a in this role. Don't even know how these hoes even justify asking for that BS. It'd make as much sense as casting a dude in the role of a disney princess.

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    Cool. Keep the love interest white tho.

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    Don't tell this guy about Miles Morales.
    The quota Spidey?

    No big deal tbh

    There's even an Arab Batman
    (True story)

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    A black secret agent

    Whats he gonna infiltrate? The NWA

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    A black secret agent

    Whats he gonna infiltrate?
    Your mom's butt

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    I don’t really care (who the cares about 007 in 2018), but casting him would just be a publicity stunt. In no way does he fit the mental image one gets when thinking of James Bond. The producers don’t deserve praise for being “progressive” or anything - they’re trying to inject life into a dead/dying franchise by stunt casting.

    btw Ian Fleming was quite the racist (ex: Live and Let Die). Not sure if that’s been mentioned

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    lol the last movie grossed $880,000,000! The franchise is dead!

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    As a straight white male that doesn't dress up in super hero costumes; the Bond series is a must see. I've gone to the theater for everyone since Goldeneye

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    Makes a lot of money but it’s cultural relevance is the lowest it’s been since the Timothy Dalton era. They clearly have no idea where to take things after Craig, so they’re thinking of taking things in a more...dare I say...colorful approach?

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    Makes a lot of money but it’s cultural relevance is the lowest it’s been since the Timothy Dalton era. They clearly have no idea where to take things after Craig, so they’re thinking of taking things in a more...dare I say...colorful approach?
    You mean a black approach? What does that even mean?

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    Makes a lot of money but it’s cultural relevance is the lowest it’s been since the Timothy Dalton era. They clearly have no idea where to take things after Craig, so they’re thinking of taking things in a more...dare I say...colorful approach?
    "cultural relevance"

    It's James Bond, dude. It has always been a reflection of the culture, not a trendsetter. The only reason it has made money for half a century is because it does so. A Black bond will not be groundbreaking, just noteworthy because it hasn't been done yet.

    I love how the racial purists are trying to dance around the single point that they want Bond to stay white just because.

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    "cultural relevance"

    It's James Bond, dude. It has always been a reflection of the culture, not a trendsetter. The only reason it has made money for half a century is because it does so. A Black bond will not be groundbreaking, just noteworthy because it hasn't been done yet.

    I love how the racial purists are trying to dance around the single point that they want Bond to stay white just because.
    Not really. I’m sure I’d still watch it, just think it’s an attention-grab of a casting choice, that’s all.

    Just as I can’t picture an American bond, I can’t really picture a black bond. Just because he’s a British guy who occasionally wears a tux does not make him an ideal casting choice. But hey I’m sure they’ll cast him and get praised for their bravery, so what I think doesn’t really matter

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    Makes a lot of money but it’s cultural relevance is the lowest it’s been since the Timothy Dalton era. They clearly have no idea where to take things after Craig, so they’re thinking of taking things in a more...dare I say...colorful approach?
    I think that is more a reflection on Western society - prefer to wear costumes and dream of "super powers".

    Bond just isn't going to attract the modern woman either. The series is exclusively thru the perspective of an alcoholic womanizer.

    As a fan, I rather them put the series on the s or even cancel it than attempt to modernize him.

    I just googled "similiar films to Bond" and half those listed were filmed in the 90s. The success and failure of Kingsman illustrates this. They only made it 2 films in and now searching for new leads.

    Tough film genre. I still think the formula should remain - exotic international spots, alcohol/womanizing and high tech weaponry

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    Just because he’s a British guy who occasionally wears a tux does not make him an ideal casting choice.
    Yep that was the only reason they cast him.

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    Plus black

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    Make him a 1950s white, racist, imperialist, misogynist pig or cancel the franchise!

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    Not really. I’m sure I’d still watch it, just think it’s an attention-grab of a casting choice, that’s all.

    Just as I can’t picture an American bond, I can’t really picture a black bond. Just because he’s a British guy who occasionally wears a tux does not make him an ideal casting choice. But hey I’m sure they’ll cast him and get praised for their bravery, so what I think doesn’t really matter
    being british is kind of instrumental for a role when the character is an agent for MI6

    white/black doesn't have any relevance tbh

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