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    Excellent find Mono.

    Feel free to span Thread to death with that.

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    Trump on trial not Hillary prawk prawk.

    Im incontrollio

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    Trump on trial not Hillary prawk prawk.

    Im incontrollio

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    I'm sure it would be common for the state to opt for a bench trial. I'm not sure why they would ever request a jury trial, barring a disastrously judge appointment?
    My understanding (based on relating what I heard an expert say)
    In new york it is in bent on the defendant simply checking a box in a form. That box was not checked by his lawyer when she submitted it.

    Oops.

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    My understanding (based on relating what I heard an expert say)
    In new york it is in bent on the defendant simply checking a box in a form. That box was not checked by his lawyer when she submitted it.

    Oops.
    Have also read that due to this nature of this damages trial (recall, Trump’s already been found liable as both parties motioned for summary judgement - this is just to establish damages) that it is not really in the defendants best interest to have a jury and that often times requests for juries are denied anyway as a jury is not best equipped to evaluate and decide upon disgorgement.

    Opting for a bench trial may not be the error it’s initially made out to be? Do your own research.

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    No reason whatsoever. It's real and funny.

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    Have also read that due to this nature of this damages trial (recall, Trump’s already been found liable as both parties motioned for summary judgement - this is just to establish damages) that it is not really in the defendants best interest to have a jury and that often times requests for juries are denied anyway as a jury is not best equipped to evaluate and decide upon disgorgement.

    Opting for a bench trial may not be the error it’s initially made out to be? Do your own research.
    Well that would do it. As I said, didn't see the do ent myself, just relating. Something to chuck at while munching my popcorn.

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    Well that would do it. As I said, didn't see the do ent myself, just relating. Something to chuck at while munching my popcorn.
    I saw the do ent, it's a basic intake form basically with a check box for Jury Trial or Bench Trial, and they checked Bench Trial. But it may have been for good reason beyond just being stupid or angling for appeal.

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    And from the article where the form is posted (https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...erwork-2023-10)

    Under the statute where James brought her lawsuit, it wasn't necessarily guaranteed that Trump would have gotten a jury to decide the case. But his lawyers didn't even ask Engoron to consider it.

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    Excellent find Mono.

    Feel free to span Thread to death with that.
    Come to Pappy.

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    No reason whatsoever. It's real and funny.
    This sucker here murdered Putin, I mean murdered Laden on spec.

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    "They say that I got killed...




    "They say."

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    That is the DAs paperwork. I just don't understand how he can act like he is getting railroaded.

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    That is the DAs paperwork. I just don't understand how he can act like he is getting railroaded.
    Well, when your first day on the job begins with an assassination attempt upon you, your wife and their only child, a grudge takes hold, dad, and daddy-O it only intensifies as the years tag along.

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    That is the DAs paperwork. I just don't understand how he can act like he is getting railroaded.
    Uhhh...this is TRUMP we are talking about. Truth and reality are irrelevant to him.

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    Uhhh...this is TRUMP we are talking about. Truth and reality are irrelevant to him.
    You're chock full a , CC.

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    "They say that I got killed...




    "They say."

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    Uhhh...this is TRUMP we are talking about. Truth and reality are irrelevant to him.
    at least 80% of the time

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    That is the DAs paperwork. I just don't understand how he can act like he is getting railroaded.
    Disclaimer, I'm fully playing Devil's advocate here and am doubtful that Trump himself is capable of this degree of thought process, but I believe the complaint would not be with the particulars of this case but rather the system that results in the majority of jury trial requests in disgorgement cases to be rejected. The argument would be that they didn't request a jury because they knew a jury demand would be rejected - and ALL defendants in these cases get railroaded.

    I don't actually believe that is what they were thinking, but I could see a more reasonable defendant (who cares about the justice system and not just himself) making.

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    Disclaimer, I'm fully playing Devil's advocate here and am doubtful that Trump himself is capable of this degree of thought process, but I believe the complaint would not be with the particulars of this case but rather the system that results in the majority of jury trial requests in disgorgement cases to be rejected. The argument would be that they didn't request a jury because they knew a jury demand would be rejected - and ALL defendants in these cases get railroaded.

    I don't actually believe that is what they were thinking, but I could see a more reasonable defendant (who cares about the justice system and not just himself) making.
    This [[[justice system]]] is a in' obscene joke, scott. I want that old man to take it apart piece-by-piece, day-by-day as long as he's able. Grab his kids, the blooded ones and they too this justice system.

    You're out of your in' mind, Scott, ya , you.

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    Disclaimer, I'm fully playing Devil's advocate here and am doubtful that Trump himself is capable of this degree of thought process, but I believe the complaint would not be with the particulars of this case but rather the system that results in the majority of jury trial requests in disgorgement cases to be rejected. The argument would be that they didn't request a jury because they knew a jury demand would be rejected - and ALL defendants in these cases get railroaded.

    I don't actually believe that is what they were thinking, but I could see a more reasonable defendant (who cares about the justice system and not just himself) making.
    Jury trial is guaranteed by the 7th amendment. He had to have waived it.

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    Jury trial is guaranteed by the 7th amendment. He had to have waived it.
    I’m not sure about New York State court but this isn’t true for federal court. In federal court you have to timely file a jury demand for civil lawsuits if you want a jury. You don’t automatically get one the way you would in a criminal trial.

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