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It has nothing to do with winning. It ultimately has nothing to do with compe iveness either. People want to know that Pop is providing coaching to get them to compe iveness. There are 0 signs that he is doing so.
It’s called building a team. Wemby is the cornerstone and he is 20 games into his career. He’s figuring out where he fits in the NBA. A team will be built around him but it’s not happening over night. If you don’t have the patience to watch this team struggle while it’s being built, tune out and comeback when they start to win. It’s that simple.It/s not about winning. It's about being compe ive, which the spurs aren't. Sniffers have touted Pop as some mensa level basketball intellect but he legit can't find a way to not lose by double digits to every team in the league no matter how bad they are or how many players they are missing.
Hilarious enough the only other coach in the same position is Monty Williams, another Pop disciple
It has nothing to do with winning. It ultimately has nothing to do with compe iveness either. People want to know that Pop is providing coaching to get them to compe iveness. There are 0 signs that he is doing so.
20 years of whining isn't salty. In fact it'd just be cheering in another city after they got the team. SAfan base would never support that kind of run.
I'm all about he bounces it he bounces it being on our coaching bench.
"Can you stop booing this guy, it's not who we are"
Wtf is this . Cut all these bums immediately
Plenty of teams "build a team" without bottoming out and being one of the worst teams in the league for two and a half years. I don't think stupidly playing players out of position and loosing by double digits every night is part of "building a team". I don't think repeatedly saying "i am just going to observe" is part of building a team. I think that only happens when your coach is awful.
What exactly has Pop done in two years other than play Sochan out of position and be lucky enough to draft Victor?
The problem here is that they are not “pounding the rock”. Pop is just doing silly that makes no sense. Playing a 20 year old power forward as the starting point guard is not building anything. It’s just stupid.Well no Sherlock.Try winning anything with a bunch of kids in the NBA. Problem is you all lied to yourselves. You got a once in a lifetime 19 y/o rook and y’all bought into the hype . How many 19 y/o rookies in the modern NBA, on rebuilding teams ever win anything? From day one, we were told that they weren’t going to skip steps—-well here we are “pounding the rock”. This year is nothing more than 82 game preseason. Accept it or tune out and bandwagon back when they start winning—then you can go ahead and tell everyone how you stuck with the team through good times and bad
Failing to provide ANY veteran leadership presence on the roster is clown .
This team was going to be bad no matter what, but what pop is doing is worse than what was expected because his game plan is actively harming these young guys.
I'm not going to try to defend Pop's handling of this season, but it is what it is.
Winning more games would probably help build some confidence and morale in the locker room, but it also isn't going to help when it comes draft time. Let's be honest, this Spurs team is not going to make any serious noise as currently constructed, even if Wemby starts putting up MVP numbers.
Jesus Christ could walk into that locker room tomorrow and not save this team.
As I've stated before, I just hope the Sochan experiment isn't hurting Victor's development or souring him on the Spurs in general. Either way, might as well start looking forward to the lottery again next year.
We are 3-14 and the losses will continue to pile up because there is no digging out of the hole at this point, so buckle up.
Last edited by Dex; 11-27-2023 at 10:54 PM.
The main issue isn't just loosing games. It's HOW we loose them
I have to admit the optimism I had coming into the season has well and truly dissipated.
I thought the Spurs would be putting out a product that the fan base could be proud of, competing nightly and showing improvements in key areas of deficiencies the last few seasons ie. Defence, 3 PT Shooting, Chemistry etc.
I was sadly mistaken.
I have several friends who lived through "The Process" years in Philly and were complimentary of the results (mostly), though discussions often painted GM Hinkie as an unintended martyr whose regimes never went all in when the fanbase thought they could of.
(Discussions of drafting Devin Booker, MPJ, D. Fox, keeping M Bridges - all apparently within their range - for other prospects who ultimately failed or moved on).
When we were going through the DDR years, I was adamant that the Spurs couldn't afford the luxury of going through a full-tanking type rebuild like that due the immense cost and seemingly tenured winning culture to which Pop embodies.
Now it appears that is exactly what we're doing.
We were handed a gift from the basketball gods at the draft and while he has performed admirably (especially considering the cir stances), I, perhaps unjustly feel that this karma is not being paid off in good faith...
I don't think basketball is purely about metrics and "Moneyball" type analytics. I think there are genuine lessons to be learned from elite compe ion every single game, night in and night out yet this team appears to sleep walk through more than its fair share.
An infusion of talent isn't going to change the confounding product being put out on the court at the moment. Youth feels like a cop out at times for this team's performances considering our Head Coach's pedigree.
I believe accountability starts from the top. Pop isn't getting it done as far as I'm concerned.
Every position, rotation minute should be heavily scrutinised. The team should be better than this.
What exactly is being built? Serious question. Who on the team do you think is here for the long haul not named Victor or Vassell? Do you think Sochan will be our PG of the future that we are “building?” Who on the coaching staff is going to be here for the team we are “building?” The Spurs historically had 4 losing seasons from inception to post LMA. That’s it. We are a top franchise of all time and that’s the standard I hold them to. You want to lower your standards that’s fine. But don’t bull me with we are building something. Not when we have to tear down what we are ing building right now
Sochan being a future pg is just as unlikely as Giannis or Lavene, or Penny, Brent Barry, Batum, Douge Christie etc. The experiment is about Sochan development in the future. I do conceed that decision means other players will have a negative impact on their development.
Bottom two!
You sir are not being invited to the Sniffers Ball.
I hear you. Just wish maybe Pop would have grabbed the mic for something like this, rather than protecting Kawhi, yknow?
Ever think that maybe, just maybe, "Tim" deserves the most credit for his individual/team success (you know, like every best player on a dynasty) and that a combination of the other Hall-of-Famer's deserves the next most?
And don't even attempt to give PATFO credit for no brainer, fully developed Robinson or fluke, fully developed Ginobili.
Put some respeck on Pop name son.Other fan bases appreciate him more than you farmers. Shameful. SMH
CIA with Kobe for 20 years gets about 7 ringsPERI
Gracias, Pepito
Put some respeck on Pop name son.
Not with Rookie Lebron, no. That would be like replacing current Jokic with Wembanyama.
I blame the abandonment of the Think Tank.
So whenever the lakers lose, even when it’s their own fault, would lead to an asterisk for another team? Like in 05 when the lakers couldn’t even make the playoffs and shaq was second in MVP voting with Miami and somehow the champs should get a le? I don’t really get it.CIA with Kobe for 20 years gets about 7 ringsPERI
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