or 4 spot will be Denver.
Nuggets at full strength aren't less though than Suns.
The 1 spot isn't very important. What is important is to be healthy in playoffs.
Barring injury, the best team will win the west.
Ok, at least the 4th quarter of the game lived up to the hype. I was rooting for the Suns but Bell and Barbosa made a few dumb TO's. Suns really need to learn to play defense. That's why they have such a poor record in close games. They can run and outscore almost any team in the NBA, but if the score is close in the final couple of minutes in the 4th quarter, you just know they're in trouble.
Oh, and what's up with Marion? Is it just me or he hasn't been playing as well since Amare has returned...
The ironic part, after high school, for a little extra cash, I reffed some of the same rec leagues...And these rec leagues wonder why they can't get any of us qualified officials that do high school and college ball to do games ! I would have thrown you out so fast and probably called the game over right then. Then again, I probably would have made decent enough calls that wouldn't piss you off quite so much....but these rec leagues get what they pay for!
I don't have an issue with refs. It's refs who call everything. Contact happens. Especially down low. If it isn't intentional or doesn't affect the shot, then it should be overlooked for sake of continued play...
As I recall, this dumb official had fouled one of my teammates out in short order and, if I remember correct, had just called my next to last foul on me, all before the fourth quarter.
It's no reason to go ape crazy on him, but if you don't know what you're doing, it's better to call fewer fouls as teams can adjust to that, than it is to call excessive fouls, piss every player on both teams off, taking every main player out of the game to the point where 8-9-10 players are getting more minutes than 1-2-3 players.
I was T'd up...
He has his games. It's like he's trying to adjust to becoming a wing again. For two full years he was a PF. Now he's a SF being asked to guard opposing PGs and SGs nightly.
His mind ain't right...
I think that Marion is personally the Suns X Factor. He's the only guy on the team who can be some semblance of defense, has a good offensive game, and can rebound. D Antoni needs to figure out a way to keep Marion more active and involved in games, because if he's doing those three things, that makes it a lot easier for the Suns to win games.
how right you are. unfortunately, we arent talking about the finals, are we dip ?
all i can say is wow. and you guys talk about how childish I am??? the fact that you blame a loss on a basketball is dumb enough. but then the fact that you wanna my mom in the ass? unfortunately for you, thats not possible, as she passed away a few years ago in a fatal car accident. but thanks for your concern.
id like to know what immature insults of the suns i made. i dont think i made a single insult against the suns. i made some joking insults against JMark and you, but you guys got your panties in a wad over a stupid regular season game. then you proceeded to talk about ing my mom in the ass, and saying i went to blow steve javie. how mature of you.
yea, and saying that you want to my deceased mother isnt the slightest bit of a grade-school obsceni es. i find it funny how JMark has no problem with you throwing far worse insults than anything i have ever said, but the second i say " ", or anything slightly negative about the Suns, he gets offensive.
all that matters is Duncan has won three rings, so we're the best, even though the Mavs beat us last year, and have the best recod in the NBA
news flash:
no one cares.
You have a lot of growing up to do... I don't care how you choose to say something. You want to use language to undermine any informed point you've made, go right on ahead...
You want to get in a pissing match with other posts, go right on ahead.
I don't care. Just don't try to bait me, because it doesn't work.
You use language. It riles another poster who then joins you in your foul-mouthed shenanigans. Now you whine and cry because a line was crossed. Boo hoo...
You dug yourself into a hole, paraded around as hot stuff and now someone's called your bluff and has offended you. Live with it.
I'm here to talk basketball, not babysit. Only offense I've ever taken from your posts was your misinformed opinion on the Suns not playing a lick of defense, then not playing consistant defense and now not playing defense when it matters.
HAD the best record!
Ben Roethlisberger does...
I'm going to go ahead and say that I have free reign to say whatever I want about your mom (who probably isn't dead since you spew so much bull out all over the place... if she is, then I'm sorry and it must have been your sister who wanted my nuts), the Mavs, or anybody for that matter, because the BIGGEST whiner in the WHOLE LEAGUE for at least 3 years was none other than Mr. Cuban himself. The man sends videos to the league office regarding ticky-tack fouls, posts sarcastic blog entries about Tim Duncan and "backs" that up with copious minutes of YouTube links, and then he goes on Letterman where he has the audacity to claim that he helped "reshape the league" and "clean up the fouls." The basketball gods paid him back by making his team drop 4 straight in the Finals.
One thing I will say about the Suns is that I'm proud to cheer for a team whose players, owners, coaches, and GMs don't resort to petty yelling or running onto the court to chastise officials at the end of games. (There have been times - aka when Bennett Salvatore screwed Nash over in Game 4 vs. the Lakers last year - where the Suns have spoken up, so don't bother bringing that up.)
I really don't care what stretch has to say, because his basketball IQ is about 0, but I have no problem resorting to his grade level when I post on here and hoping I can get some kind of point across in the midst of personal insults and obscenities.
Yeah, I'm going to reiterate that I realized last night nothing I complain about will hold a candle to Baby Marky.
Just like Mavs fans hide behind the veil of how many FT attempts D-Wade had last year, I'll hide behind the precedent set by their favorite owner.
It's that your argument changes to fit the situation. First, the Suns played "no defense" and then they only didn't play "consistent defense" and now it is they "don't play defense between the 6 and 2 minute marks against the Mavs on December 28 so they'll never win a le."
Your team was held to 41% shooting and the Suns made costly mistakes in the final 2 mins that led to Dirk hitting only his 2nd bucket of the 4th quarter to win the game. Congratulations, but where was the Mavs defense when the Suns went on a 27-6 run? How about that 10-0 run to start the 4th? Don't sit back and act like the Mavs are a defensive powerhouse that gave up 51% shooting, but was able to keep Amare from hitting a tying bucket with 1.3 seconds left.
The best part about this game for me was that the Suns played one of their worst halves of basketball in the first half and were only down 3 points. Too bad they followed that up by playing the worst 4 minutes ever in the 4th quarter.
I have supreme confidence in the team being able to close out games in the future. Nash and Stoudemire are too proud to let this team fail and D'Antoni will realize he needs to take the ball out of Barbosa's hands. The loss of Diaw hurt late in the game because he can post up, drive, dish, or finish and that takes some pressure off Nash to make it happen.
Yeah but yall have a better record than us in December.Good game by both teams but too many turnovers for the Suns.
These teams are pretty evenly matched and I look forward to some good games in the future.
Congratulations Mavericks you are the champions of December.
Meh, I just got back from Lafayette, and I care not to read this whole thread as it's just a lot of back and forth ing.....but, eat RonMexico. How does it feel to have the most un-clutch player ever to hit the game winning shot? Or Jet dropping 35 on your little girls last night? Or getting held to under 100? I bet your pants loaded up pretty bad last night huh?
Suns>Nuggets. Even if Denver does get the 4 spot I'm not worried about them. They will have chemistry issues. The suns though are for real so whoever gets the 1 spot has an advantage.
If you call jumping for alleys and spotting up for 3's good offense, then I guess it is.
oh my ing god. i never once was the slightest bit offended or anything. i couldnt care less what the he says, because it doesnt matter. its a ing internet forum. i just find it funny that you guys get so pissed off and tell me to grow up from saying the word , when he sits there, uses just as much foul language, and talks about ing my mom in the ass, although she happens to be dead, and you support that. but the second i say , you tell me to grow up. you truly must love being ignorant or something. i really dont give a what he says. its not going to make any difference in my life. im not going to sit here and cry and whine like a little about something that doesnt matter. i just find it funny how hypocritical you guys are, and just how blind you are to it. if you want to talk basketball, lets talk basketball. but dont sit here and tell me to stop using foul language and grow up, while you have used foul language yourself, and also support someone who has used just as much foul language as me, and has said things that are far more offensive than anything i said.
you wanna talk basketball, then lets just forget this , move on instead of arguing over something as stupid and meaningless as this (which i also accept the fact that i started a lot of it myself) and start talking basketball. i am all for that.
thats all i have to say.
if you knew anything about simple english, you would know that playing "no defense" would also include "not playing consistent defense" and "not playing clutch defense". i still dont think they are a good defensive team. of course they have their moments throught games, as all teams do, no matter how ty they are. but overall, even after last night, i was not very impressed with their defense, especially since you made it sound like they play great defense. i didnt see anything great about their defense at all. it played better than i expected, but like i said, all defenses will have their games and their moments. 1 game doesnt instantly show that they are a good defensive team. to win a le, you need to consistently play good defense, game after game. anyone that knows a damn thing about basketball knows that.
and you were saying I have 0 basketball IQ??? from a guy who thinks you can win a le without defense and rebounding... what a character...
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