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Mavs by 11.
time to see if the Suns are for real
Mavs by 11.
I don't know if they can go into Dallas and pull it off, but if they have any pride they will... The Mavs won 119-112 in Phoenix when the Suns were sucking big time, so I hope they can pull it off.
The Mavs have an energetic fan-base so they have a good homecourt advantage and I hope the Suns don't get rattled... If Nash plays like he did against Washington, then it should be really good... unfortunately, Dirk has a personal homecourt advantage in every arena in the NBA when it comes to officiating.
I'll be doing double-duty with the A&M game, though, so it's going to be an intense night all around.
Why wouldn't they have pride? They will play well and as long as both teams play well it should be a good game. Way to break out with the gy officiating excuse BEFORE the game...worried much?
BTW, know who attempted more free throws than anyone else in the league in the 04-05 season? Look it up loser. (Hint: He plays for the Suns)
Know who attempted more free throws than anyone else in the league in 05-06? Four guys before Dirk.
Know who's number seven right before Michael Jordan in highest number of FTAs shot in the history of the league? (Hint: He plays for the Suns)
I thought you'd be the last guy to whine about officiating, AND BEFORE A GAME, HAHA you'll probably pee your pants on gameday wuss.
Last edited by ponky; 12-27-2006 at 02:01 AM.
Should be a great game and a close one too. Mavs are probably the better team but PHX can put points on the board, I'll go with my gut and say Mavs though.
I would have rather seen this Christmas day.
Suns will win a tight game that features clutch shooting by Nash and a pretty dominant performance by Leandro Barbosa.
The Mavericks don't give the Suns problems like the Spurs do. Suns and Mavs always play each other pretty evenly. And it'll be interesting to see how the Mavs handle the addition of Amare Stoudemire.
Your post was great until you got here. C'mon man, this didn't need to be added. Sounds like us Mavs fans from the finals.
Yes, the Amare *addition* will be great to watch but it will also be interesting to see how the Suns handle a much improved Josh Howard who is no longer a rookie and cna play well both ends of the floor.
UH the Suns have 3 or 4 Josh Howard's on their team.. WHen teams account for Howard he is a below avg player..when teams have to account for Dirk..then Howard roams free to do his business..
you truly are the epitome of a moron.
Haha, you should watch some games before talking about how teams bother JHO...because they don't. Everyone has an off night here and there but JHO is probably the most consistent baller on the team for his numbers/minutes. You shouldn't pull rabbits out of your ass unless you know what you're talking about.
As for the Suns, my point was that last time they beat us, JHO was a rookie and since then, he's evolved. Diaw is inconsistent as and overpaid, Barbosa (I really like him) is very good but not at the same level as JHO yet, he lacks confidence sometimes when his game is off, but when he's on, he plays very well so we'll just have to see which guy shows up. JHO is a better defender than either of those guys so no, the Suns really don't have 3-4 JHOs.
Uh how many points and rebounds did howard get when Bowen stuck him? I am going out on a limb and assume his numbers were below his season avgs... hence my point was correcft... the suns are the most athletic team in the league with 3 or 4 players who equal howard's athleticism.. why don't you pull your head out of howard's a$$ and admit when a team accounts for him his numbers plummet.. that happens to all players you kool aid drinker... When teams game plan for Tony parker he is relegated to being a bystander.. this isn't strictly a howard issue.. why don't you try and watch a game yourself?
I don't get this comment, why do the suns need to prove they are for real? It's the other way around. The Mavs need to prove they are for real and can beat a healthy suns team.time to see if the Suns are for real
Dallas will kick their ass back to Phoenix.
Get the win Phoenix!
which is why we beat them in their house earlier in the year.
I dont get this comment.
We've gone over this already. There's a huge thread on it before. You faced and beat the pre-healthy Amare Suns. Now is the post-healthy Amare Suns.
Anyways. I don't think the Mavericks have to prove they can beat the Suns. Even in 2004-05 they beat the Suns at least three, if not four times counting the playoffs.
As for Josh Howard, typically a second star does benefit from the main star on a team. Josh Howard is a very good player. He's very tough to defend because he does so many things well. However, he certainly benefits from defenses keying on Dirk. That's how it works. Superstar draws attention/double/triple teams and the team benefits from the open lanes/open shots.
And where did this "the last time the Suns beat the Mavericks JHo was a rookie" thing come from? The Suns beat the Mavericks four times last year in what was Josh Howard's third professional season. I wouldn't even argue that he played like a rookie last year. While he's certainly a better player this year than last, he was far from a "rookie" last year. His actual rookie year of 9 points, 5 rebounds, 43% FG and 30% 3FG differs greatly from his implied rookie year of 16 points, 7 rebounds, 47% FG and 42% 3FG.
Hopefully the Suns regain their focus, remember to rebound more than anything offensively and attack the basket, then they'll do well. I'd almost rather their stroke from range stay gone so they can develop another way to win.
Dallas was 0-4 and Phoenix was 1-4 when the two teams met earlier this year, so that game wasn't really indicative of how these two squads can play. Dallas is back to playing at an elite level, and Phoenix has finally formed its defensive chemistry.
Dallas and Phoenix have a tendency to ignore home-court advantage when playing each other, and Nash always enjoys showing up Mark Cuban. Home-court advantage will mean little tomorrow night.
Should be a great game.
Too much Nash will be the Mavs undoing.
I need to pre-load my excuses before the game starts, so I don't have to ruin what will be a great game with the inevitable ing I will infuse when this game hits the 4th quarter. (In which case, I will simply re-quote myself from the earlier post, so it all works out.)Your post was great until you got here. C'mon man, this didn't need to be added. Sounds like us Mavs fans from the finals.
You need to take into account the pressure-packed day I have on Thursday: first, an annual 2-on-2 basketball game with my buddies with about $50 on the line (I'm afraid because I've been drinking too much in the past year and the elevation change when I come from Houston to Phoenix kills my endurance already); A&M v. Cal in a HUGE bowl game for them after the UT win and the 1-pt losses to OU and Nebraska... oh, and I hate Cal; and then Suns/Mavs with a LOT at stake (i.e. 05 playoffs - Suns won... 06 - Mavs won; the teams are split 10-10 in their last 20 games against each other; it's on the road for the Suns, which is where teams that want to be great have to win; and I've talked too much on this message board to have my boys tank it).
That's probably a little too much personal information for all of you, but I just thought I'd throw it out there to convey the fact that I've never taken a December regular season game so seriously in my life. I'm merely saying that I will forgo all post-game complaining about officiating by putting it all in here before the game starts... for whatever that's worth.
On the Josh Howard sidebar, he is a really good player and dangerous for any team with his size and athleticism. Where he is most dangerous to the Suns is when they try and double-team (Suns resort to double-team strategies against Dirk almost every game; and this new Dampier could be more of an X-factor than anyone has mentioned, in my opinion)... if Howard knocks down the open 3, then it's really bad for the Suns and he absolutely kills them on the offensive glass anyways because he has long arms, the Suns don't box out, and he's quick to the ball... 6-8 pts on Howard put-backs could be a difference-maker in the game.
Still, please stop coddling his ego by giving him such a little baby-Mav affectionate name like "JHo." I'm 90% sure Howard gave himself this nickname and forced everyone in the Dallas media to begin using it - not unlike the time he predicted that he and D-Wade would "cancel each other out." He needs to win a le or get an all-star appearence before I'll support it. Until then, I'm still sticking with "Brace Face," (classic from 2 yrs ago) "GayHo," or " nuts."
And before anyone starts talking about the "STAT" nickname for Amare, I'll go ahead and say I don't care for that one either.
Amare's season of 795 FTAs still ranks number 63 all-time, behind (*gasp*) #53 Jerry Stackhouse's 810 in 2001 and #8 Michael Jordan's 972 in 1987.
Blah, blah - we've discussed this before: Spurs fans say it's because Dirk is a "jump shooter"; I still maintain there is an American Airlines Center bias against the Suns. It never really affected me or made me angry until last year's playoffs when he breaks a FT record held by Jordan, gets 24 FTA against the Spurs in the WCSF, and gets around 40% of his FTA by flailing around, flopping, yelling, or running into former MVPs feet and rolling his ankle... I also wouldn't get as pissed off if he didn't shoot 90%+ from the line because that just pours salt in the wound.
I'm assumming you meant Charles Barkley, and he's actually behind Jordan in the list by about 130 FTs. Secondly, Barkley's highest FTA seasons were when he was still with Philadelphia and not with the Suns.[/QUOTE]
Meh, as if this game isn't important enough, I needed to start a little -talking... the posting seems like it's been in a lull since Christmas (except for the Spurs-Bucks thread that blew up... hahah), so I wanted to add as much e possible for a December regular-season game.
Mavs are going to pwn the Suns. Mavs by 12 at least, but probably more like 20.
You are acting like the suns are a freaking lottery team.
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