Look, dan gets a rise and a feeling of superiority from believing this stuff. It's not about having the answers. It's about the self-satisfaction in being counter-culture, and all that takes is the ability to ignore most facts and cherry-pick a few others.
Sadly, as anyone who has ever listened to a Cal Thomas commentary can attest, this flaw is not unique to the moonbat left.
ES, wastn't there a company from San Antonio that
thought they had perfected a process where they could
construct floors on the ground level, raise them and
build multi-storied building that way. Then had a
terrible accident where their system failed killed some
workers and now you never hear of that system. Seems
like the accident happened in the late 80's or 90's.
What do you expect me to believe Chump? That six people could look at a building and say that they think it's gonna come down? What is that? These people weren't experts on the collapse, they didn't run any numbers on the stress loads of the trusses, they didn't do a fire and chemical analysis on the beams of the buildings. Cut the superficial stuff and give me something I can sink my teeth into and maybe we can get to some debunking.
but thanks for trying.
You don't believe that six firemen could look at a building and say they think it's gonna come down?What do you expect me to believe Chump? That six people could look at a building and say that they think it's gonna come down?And your experts and scholars did?These people weren't experts on the collapse, they didn't run any numbers on the stress loads of the trusses, they didn't do a fire and chemical analysis on the beams of the buildings.You first.Cut the superficial stuff
I got 10 firemen on tape saying they heard a series of sequenced explosions before Towers 1 and 2 fell...who should i believe.......hmmmm....You don't believe that six firemen could look at a building and say they think it's gonna come down?
Did they say it looked like bombs were going to go off hours beforehand?
I'm the one that said that any further discussion of this topic should be reserved till the next NIST report comes out. Hopefully, it contains a more detailed analysis than the preliminary report did.And your experts and scholars did?
Did you not read anything I posted?
Firefighters using transits to determine whether there was any movement in the structure were surprised to discover that is was moving. The area was evacuated and the building collapsed later in the afternoon of Sept. 11.
There's your test. The only one that could have been done while the building was still standing.
Yet that didn't stop you from spitting out all the tired conspiracy theorites (my new term for tiny unrelated bits of theory that amount to nothing).
I got the explosions on tape. Look, I'm convinced that some 911 conspiracy shows like loose change are just poison pills to categorically attempt to debunk every alternative theory about 911 as a conspiracy theory. Get a copy of eyewitness 911. The guy was right across the Hudson and you can hear explosions on his video and you can see white smoke rising from the base of both buildings well before and right at the time of the collapse of Towers 1 and 2. Strangely, or not, I have not been able to find a complete copy of this video online, but I would be happy to share a copy if you send me your address or a way to get it to you by IM.
I already posted that this particular building had removable walls and ceilings to meet demands for higher ceilings and wider working areas.Firefighters using transits to determine whether there was any movement in the structure were surprised to discover that is was moving. The area was evacuated and the building collapsed later in the afternoon of Sept. 11.
Did they design the entire structure to move on it's own? Really, are you feigning this level of ignorance to avoid accepting the truth here? That's not what the transit would measure and you know it.
I've seen that video. I'm sure there were explosions all over the place and there were fires all over the building because they spread through the elevator shafts. The lobby on the ground floor got blown all to very soon after the plane hit the building. There's tape of that too.
Look, these guys weren't engineers. They noticed movement in a few walls, they didn't have any data of the trusses.
Look, these guys were firemen who use a tool to figure out if an entire building was moving.How many walls were there to measure? Four?They noticed movement in a few wallsAnd neither does the BYU physics professor, but that never stopped him from saying it had to be explosives.they didn't have any data of the trusses.
In that casee, there would be a few explosions, there are more than that on the tape, a series of explosions, some right before the collapse, and if you had seen this particular video, his free-fall analysis on the collapse of WTC7 is copied by every other conspiracy video. Did the need for a vacuum in order for the building to free-fall that fast just escape you?
Yeah, that's a load of crap. Why is there other debris falling out from the buildings faster than the building itself? Was there a super-vacuum that was sucking that stuff down to the earth faster than the force of gravity in the vacuum that was supposedly pulling down the towers? What fact escaped me there?
And is he on the faculty at BYU as well?his free-fall analysis on the collapse of WTC7
Tell me which is falling faster here: the building or the debris.
Ok, I can see you no longer wish to discuss this rationally.
it's the trusses that matter, not individual debris, that not holding the building up.
Again, is the building falling as fast as this debris?
This is the simplest common sense question you need to answer for yourself.
Fine, do a arc analysis of your own pic, tell me, do things fall upward? because they are there.
Why are you confuse the subject? You said the building fell at free-fall speed. If that's true, it would be falling at the same rate as the debris.
It isn't.
No, free-fall would mean that there was catastrophic truss failure at all levels, a statistical impossibility.
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