Official Dallas Mavericks Offseason Speculation Thread

[The Nba Is Rigged]

This Whole Franchise Sucks imo. Let me breakdown my opinion of some of the main people in this franchise.

Mark Cuban- A moron who disses David Stern, Disses refs, and runs his mouth every ing time. Then the moron wonders why Wade was able to shoot 97 freethrows in 6 games in the finals while Dirk was getting beat up by Shaq and Haslem with no call. Wtf did cuban expect?! This fool let Nash go for free, Traded Devin Harris, overpaid for J-kidd, and watched as the team Nellie and Donnie built was ruined by Avery. Because of this fool we can never get any calls.

Donnie Nelson- He was shining while Nellie was here but now that nellie has left this team is full of washed up "VETERAN DEFENDERS". I still give him credit for wat he has done in the past, I'll be expecting some good stuff from him in the offseason.

AVERY IN JOHNSON- This moron was basically given the reins to a in championship team and still found ways to it up. The moron tried to turn Dirk into a ty version of Tim Duncan. He got rid of both Marquis Daniels and Adrian Griffin at the same time then replaced them with useless fools. He overcoaches in almost every ing game. His rotations are horrible. Outcoached by Riley and Nellie. He didn't allow Devin to grow while he was here. The list just goes on with AVERY IN JOHNSON.

Dirk Nowitzki- This dude needs to in step up and tell Cuban to sit his ass down during games and he also needs to DEMAND that Avery Johnson be fired.

Jason Kidd- This Mother er just needs to learn how to in shoot.

Josh Howard- Just trade his ass already

All of this is coming from a die hard mavs fan that just wants to see these guys win a ing ring already

[MajorMike]

What would you say was worse? Enduring the yearly faliures of guys like Andrew Walter, Kerry Collins, etc... or the 2 years of Bill Callahan, and watching this team go from and elite superbowl contender, to an underachieving pile of garbage, and seeing us lose the superbowl because he was stupid enough to keep the same playcalls from previous years under Jon Gruden?

Oh, and you forgot Rick Mirer, lol

Yea, its been a tough few years as a Raiders fan... I think it was a lot more frustrating to see their fall due to piss-poor coaching under Callahan, considering how much talent they still had (oh, and then another 2 years before that, of getting cheated out of consecutive SBs with the bull "tuck" game, and then Siragusa's BS cheapshot at Gannon. But I think they are about to come back to life. They have a good amount of talent, especially on D... it all depends on Russell. If he pans out, they could have a of a team here soon.

Anyways, being able to remain faithful to the Raiders, you have my respect as a fan. If you can gut it out through crap like they have been through the past decade or so, then you gotta be a damn good fan. I know its been tough for me... but I'm happy to see them finally getting some good talent in there again.

I actually thought we would survive with Collins, that was until he has something like 9 fumbles in 2 games and broke a finger or something along those lines. He totally turned into Kurt Warner without the MVP part.

Callahan was a complete joke. I got more satisfaction from beating Neb 2 in a row because he was there.

Ryan coached at OSU, at was actually one of or better defenses in recorded history with a bunch of no names. His D is great, now if we could just buy some O. Signing Rhodes was a complete joke.

But, then again, I'm just looking it all up on some football page, right mono?

Power to the Raider Nation!

P.S. mono - I have a Moss throwback I'll sell you cheap since he is such an upstanding citizen in NE.

[MajorMike]

This Whole Franchise Sucks imo. Let me breakdown my opinion of some of the main people in this franchise.

Mark Cuban- A moron who disses David Stern, Disses refs, and runs his mouth every ing time. Then the moron wonders why Wade was able to shoot 97 freethrows in 6 games in the finals while Dirk was getting beat up by Shaq and Haslem with no call. Wtf did cuban expect?! This fool let Nash go for free, Traded Devin Harris, overpaid for J-kidd, and watched as the team Nellie and Donnie built was ruined by Avery. Because of this fool we can never get any calls.

Donnie Nelson- He was shining while Nellie was here but now that nellie has left this team is full of washed up "VETERAN DEFENDERS". I still give him credit for wat he has done in the past, I'll be expecting some good stuff from him in the offseason.

AVERY IN JOHNSON- This moron was basically given the reins to a in championship team and still found ways to it up. The moron tried to turn Dirk into a ty version of Tim Duncan. He got rid of both Marquis Daniels and Adrian Griffin at the same time then replaced them with useless fools. He overcoaches in almost every ing game. His rotations are horrible. Outcoached by Riley and Nellie. He didn't allow Devin to grow while he was here. The list just goes on with AVERY IN JOHNSON.

Dirk Nowitzki- This dude needs to in step up and tell Cuban to sit his ass down during games and he also needs to DEMAND that Avery Johnson be fired.

Jason Kidd- This Mother er just needs to learn how to in shoot.

Josh Howard- Just trade his ass already

All of this is coming from a die hard mavs fan that just wants to see these guys win a ing ring already

You are right, Fin, this is a positive thread for mavs fans. My bad, I'll exit now.

[Findog]

You are right, Fin, this is a positive thread for mavs fans. My bad, I'll exit now.

Right, because I have control over what other posters have to say. It was created with positive intentions.

[Findog]

It's especially bothersome when a Phoenix fan who made a disappearing act as soon as his team was sucking reappears to talk trash.

And reappears after they beat New Jersey and Philly. Like they didn't fail when it mattered against Detroit and Boston.

Anyways. What's your take on Cubes? Do you see him going the cheap way and trying to offload as much as he cans? or do you see him overpaying again to get some supporting cast for Dirk and Kidd?

Whether it's business, HDNet, Dancing with the stars, or the Mavericks, he doesn't like to lose, and I'm sure he won't be happy about being in the luxury tax and the lottery at the same time. It's true that Dirk's injury is what is most responsible for them being lottery-bound, and it's a testament to the depth and excellence of the West that they're not a lock to make the playoffs, but this team HAS underachieved. My guess is that Avery will be fired/resign, or some sort of mutual buyout/parting will take place, and they'll give this thing one more shot. Whether that's a FA acquisition or a trade, they're going to try one more time with the pairing of Dirk and Kidd and some other piece to be added this summer. As much as they've struggled, they're not that far from a return to the contention of the past three years. 45-28 is not chopped liver, especially with your franchise guy being out for the stretch run, and most of these games with Kidd against the other elite teams went down to the wire. They can beat good teams, they just don't.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

All I posted was my opinion of this franchise, I'm not going to sit here and lie to myself that we are world beaters just because some of you guys want to see a "positive" post. I understand you want to be positive but you have to be realistic also.

[Dex]

This thread is fun.

[Findog]

I'm wary of adding him because he's a ballhog and the Wizards got better by playing as a team without him, but what about Gilbert Arenas in a S-n-T? He would absolutely solve our problems at SG:

From ESPN.COM

LOS ANGELES -- Gilbert Arenas never follows convention, so did you really expect him to take an orthodox approach to his upcoming free agency? Sunday night, Arenas fired the opening shot in negotiations with the Washington Wizards … by offering to take a pay cut.

The premise put to him was that it would be hard to expect the Wizards to re-sign Arenas and fellow free agent Antawn Jamison while keeping to their stated goal of staying below the NBA's luxury tax threshold.

"Just sign Antawn first and then I'll take the pay cut, to keep the team intact," Arenas said.

Later, Arenas implied he would also be willing to take a lower salary to play for a contending team.

"Going to a team like the Lakers, Dallas, any championship team, I'd have to take a pay cut to go there," Arenas said. "The pay cut is, if I leave I have to take a pay cut, if Antawn comes back, I'd have to take a pay cut."

Kidd's ultimate value is that guys like to play with him, just like Nash, and we might be able to get a proven guy who wants to play with him and sees himself as the missing piece to lifting Dallas back to the elite level.

[monosylab1k]

You are right, Fin, this is a positive thread for mavs fans. My bad, I'll exit now.

America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.

[monosylab1k]

But, then again, I'm just looking it all up on some football page, right mono?

America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.

[monosylab1k]

can someone really claim to be looking things up when they haven't provided one shred of evidence that would naturally be found on, uh, some football page?

[monosylab1k]

I'm wary of adding him because he's a ballhog and the Wizards got better by playing as a team without him, but what about Gilbert Arenas in a S-n-T? He would absolutely solve our problems at SG:



Kidd's ultimate value is that guys like to play with him, just like Nash, and we might be able to get a proven guy who wants to play with him and sees himself as the missing piece to lifting Dallas back to the elite level.

A year ago I'd rather die than see Arenas in a Dallas uniform. At this point - what the , why not. Bring Arenas aboard if he wants to come here. I'd do a Howard/Terry for Arenas trade.

Maybe we can strike gold with the Boston approach of bludgeoning people to death with as many big name players as possible.

[mavsfan1000]

Go Thuggets

[monosylab1k]

Sooooo we have

Howard/Terry for Arenas
Dampier for Curry
draft Kevin Love

what else?

[monosylab1k]

maybe get Pietrus with the MLE? Is that enough?

That would give us a lineup of -

PG - Kidd
SG - Arenas
SF - Pietrus
PF - Nowitzki
C - Curry

bench:
Bass
Love
Wright
Stackhouse
Allen
etc.

[mavsfan1000]

Sooooo we have

Howard/Terry for Arenas
Dampier for Curry
draft Kevin Love

what else?

Just say no to Curry.

[monosylab1k]

that lineup will score some effing points, that's for sure.

not so great on defense but I think they can be coached up to a certain extent.

[monosylab1k]

Just say no to Curry.

then don't about not having a post player.

[mavsfan1000]

then don't about not having a post player.

I haven't. Defense and rebounding is the most important things for a center. Especially help defense.

[monosylab1k]

I haven't.

Most mavs fans are though, yet I doubt any of them would do that trade.

They want it both ways. But you have to give up something to get something.

If you want a post scorer, Eddy Curry is right there for the taking. Mavs fans really can't about not having a post player if they're not willing to trade for one of the premier post players in the league.

[mavs>spurs2]

I'd love to have Eddy Curry. We've remodeled this team several times over the years all while trying to win without a post scorer and it hasn't worked. If the old way doesn't work then it's time to try something new, and i'd give up a little defense in exchange for a good inside scorer. It's not like Dampier was some great defender anyway.

[mavsfan1000]

I'd love to have Eddy Curry. We've remodeled this team several times over the years all while trying to win without a post scorer and it hasn't worked. If the old way doesn't work then it's time to try something new, and i'd give up a little defense in exchange for a good inside scorer. It's not like Dampier was some great defender anyway.

This team would be even worse with that trade. Dampier is our only good defender left on this team. Diop and Harris were both solid defenders. Now they're gone and no surprise we struggle because of our defense.

[monosylab1k]

I'd love to have Eddy Curry. We've remodeled this team several times over the years all while trying to win without a post scorer and it hasn't worked. If the old way doesn't work then it's time to try something new, and i'd give up a little defense in exchange for a good inside scorer. It's not like Dampier was some great defender anyway.

Yeah Mavs fans will keep making excuses for Damp, but the guy just isn't that important. They can say whatever about setting screens, but any asshole can set a screen or grab rebounds.

He's been more valuable since the Kidd trade, but his play has still been uneven. He shows up huge in one game but is almost invisible others.

I'd do Damp for Curry in an instant.

It's possible to teach Curry to hustle and improve his conditioning. It's not possible to teach Dampier how to play in the post.

[monosylab1k]

Now they're gone and no surprise we struggle because of our defense.

Statistically we've been better defensively since the trade, thank you very much.

Offense is the problem now.

[mavsfan1000]

Statistically we've been better defensively since the trade, thank you very much.

Offense is the problem now.

Yes without Dirk we do have problems offensively. Thank you very much.