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    I'll be bumping this tomorrow after we lose to the Spurs, but I wanted to get a jump on discussing how the team can improve and what can be done this summer. Should we actually miss the playoffs, which is a strong possibility given the difficult games ahead and Golden State and Denver nipping at our heels, we'll keep the pick we sent to New Jersey.

    Here is the list of free agents available this summer:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...2008freeagents

    This is a good source for the latest rankings of players who might be available in the 12-16 range:

    http://www.nbadraft.net/2008bigboard.asp

    The Mavericks salary cap situation can be found here:

    http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/mavs/.../mavs-con.html

    Dallas currently has about $81 million committed to 8 players, assuming Jason Kidd and Eddie Jones don't exercise their options to become free agents. The salary cap is expected to be somewhere around $58 million, so the Mavericks will once again be deep into luxury tax territory. The following are unrestricted free agents free to sign with any team:

    Malik Allen, Devean George, Juwan Howard, Tyronn Lue, Jamaal Magloire, Antoine Wright.

    Of this group, I would like to resign Allen, Lue and Wright. Despite Cuban's throwing a hissy fit over George's role in the Kidd trade saga, his Bird rights might be useful if we need to match salaries in a sign and trade to bring an impact player here in the offseason. Resigning the trio listed above leaves four slots to fill out the 15-man roster. It doesn't look as if we'll be able to add any impact players that could help the team other than with the MLE and LLE.




    Some of the unrestricted players available in Dallas' price range that we might want to target include the following:

    Eduardo Najera, Mickael Pietrus, DeSagana Diop, Chris Anderson, Maurice Evans and Bonzi Wells.
    Last edited by Findog; 08-04-2008 at 09:38 AM.

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    Findog....we need you guys to beat the Spurs.....otherwise Cuban might blow a corpusule.

    Still not sure how you can root for a team that does stuff like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp4CI...d.php?t=145495

    DD
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    I might get talked into giving this team an offseason to work together and bringing in a few more FA's that might fit better with Kidd.

    But what I really want to happen to the Mavericks is this -



    Start back from scratch, and build a real contender this time. No player is off-limits, even Dirk. I want him to stay, but if some team with real championship hopes out there is willing to overpay grossly for him, then he can be traded.

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    I guess we have to wait for official word on Dirk's injury, but this is all I have to say.

    Our 1st round pick this year is lottery protected.


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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Here's some guys that could potentially be in the 11-14 pick range.

    DJ Augustin
    Chase Budinger (big 2-guard)
    Kevin Love
    Roy Hibbert
    Ty Lawson

    Not that any of these guys are putting us over the top, but there are some quality young guys in this draft who are gonna help out better than whatever MLE spare we get duped into thinking will be worth a .

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    I would love for us to get DJ Augustine. We're going to need one in a couple years.

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    I'll admit I haven't seen much of this guy, but Chase Budinger is very very intriguing.

    Good size, great athlete, great shooter, and a SLASHER above all. Not great on defense but probably because nobody asks him to play it.

    Not saying he's a gamebreaker, but he can't possibly be any worse than Devean George.

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    Here's some guys that could potentially be in the 11-14 pick range.

    DJ Augustin
    Chase Budinger (big 2-guard)
    Kevin Love
    Roy Hibbert
    Ty Lawson

    Not that any of these guys are putting us over the top, but there are some quality young guys in this draft who are gonna help out better than whatever MLE spare we get duped into thinking will be worth a .
    I love Chase. I followed his every game the past two seasons. The kid is an AAU monster, but an above average all-around player in real ball. He is one of the laziest defenders I've ever seen. Maybe he tries and it just doesn't look like it? When his outside jumper isn't falling, the kid is practically useless because he seldom attacks the lane unless it's in transition, his pull-up mid-range jumper is suspect and streaky and, despite have tremendous athleticism (he's been said to have a 50-inch vertical), his rebounding and help defense are below average.

    Maybe alongside Kidd he can make a rookie impact, but if Avery is still the coach, I can see him being glued to the bench for, lack of a better description, just not giving a crap about much besides shooting jumpers.

    He's a more athletic Van Horn at this point. Not the college Van Horn, either. The stand around and wait New York/Milwaukee/Dallas-Van Horn.

    Plus, I don't think he's entering. I think he'll test, but entering this season he was expected to be a top-5 pick. Now he's late-lottery. I think he'll stick and work himself back into the top-5 for 2009.

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    I love Chase. I followed his every game the past two seasons. The kid is an AAU monster, but an above average all-around player in real ball. He is one of the laziest defenders I've ever seen. Maybe he tries and it just doesn't look like it? When his outside jumper isn't falling, the kid is practically useless because he seldom attacks the lane unless it's in transition, his pull-up mid-range jumper is suspect and streaky and, despite have tremendous athleticism (he's been said to have a 50-inch vertical), his rebounding and help defense are below average.

    Maybe alongside Kidd he can make a rookie impact, but if Avery is still the coach, I can see him being glued to the bench for, lack of a better description, just not giving a crap about much besides shooting jumpers.

    He's a more athletic Van Horn at this point. Not the college Van Horn, either. The stand around and wait New York/Milwaukee/Dallas-Van Horn.

    Plus, I don't think he's entering. I think he'll test, but entering this season he was expected to be a top-5 pick. Now he's late-lottery. I think he'll stick and work himself back into the top-5 for 2009.
    Okay that's interesting to read, thanks for the info. Like I said, I didn't know much about him, I was relying on a few scouting reports I read about him. He's a big, athletic 2 who I guess has the ability to slash, which would be great for Dallas. But if he's prone to jacking up jumpers, meh.

    Seems like a guy who could be a lot of fun to watch tho.

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    I'll admit I haven't seen much of this guy, but Chase Budinger is very very intriguing.

    Good size, great athlete, great shooter, and a SLASHER above all. Not great on defense but probably because nobody asks him to play it.

    Not saying he's a gamebreaker, but he can't possibly be any worse than Devean George.
    Didn't see this post. He has the potential for everything you have written, but just hasn't lived up to expectations yet. Having Lute back should help.

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    Dirk's injury seals our fate. We will miss the playoffs. This might be a blessing in disguise, since the Jersey pick is lottery protected. At least his injury gives us an excuse for missing the playoffs.

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    Turn out the lights, the party's over.

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    Turn out the lights, the parties over.
    Same for you guys 14 days later.

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    Corey Maggette can opt out of his Clipper contract. Something to keep in mind.

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    I think this could help J Kidd do some things he wants to do now. He is the best player now that Dirk is hurt. This may help, but it only helps if Dallas can survive long enough to make the playoffs.

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    Dirk's injury seals our fate. We will miss the playoffs. This might be a blessing in disguise, since the Jersey pick is lottery protected. At least his injury gives us an excuse for missing the playoffs.
    The smartest thing the Mavs could do is miss the playoffs this year. They simply aren't going to win with Avery's system this season. Fire Avery, bring in some young blood with a good draft pick, and start afresh. Dirk, Terry, Damp, Howard, and even Stackhouse have a few more years left in them.

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    I think this could help J Kidd do some things he wants to do now. He is the best player now that Dirk is hurt. This may help, but it only helps if Dallas can survive long enough to make the playoffs.
    We have two apiece left against the Clippers and Sonics. This team is so dependent upon Dirk, even those are going to be a struggle to win now. But let's assume that we get them. That gets us to 48 wins.

    We have left at home: Warriors, Jazz, Hornets.

    We have left on the road: Nuggets, Warriors, Lakers, Suns, Blazers.

    To be assured of a playoff spot, I think you need to get 52 wins. We have to get a split of those 8 games, and we haven't beaten a +.500 team since Kidd got here. I say we're better off missing the playoffs and keeping the pick. We're going to be pretty tight against the cap, and we can fill a roster spot with a rookie contract slot.

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    The smartest thing the Mavs could do is miss the playoffs this year. They simply aren't going to win with Avery's system this season. Fire Avery, bring in some young blood with a good draft pick, and start afresh. Dirk, Terry, Damp, Howard, and even Stackhouse have a few more years left in them.
    Cosigned. There's no shame in missing the playoffs in the West this year, especially since we're without our franchise player for the stretch run.

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    You can always get Rasho Nesterovic to make up for the loss of Diop. Dampier simply isn't good enough to hold down the fort by himself in the post.

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    It seems pretty clear what to do:

    - Get the 14th pick (probably), a slim outside shot at a top-three pick and fill a hole

    or

    - Squeak into the playoffs, give your first round pick to New Jersey, and get drilled by the #1 seed.

    I'm also not in favor of anything that saves Avery's job.

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    God, just don't draft Darren Collison. It would make me puke having to cheer for him in a Mavs uniform.

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    This thread just makes me remember to be grateful to our Spurs front office.
    Here's a team that was in the Finals two years ago, won 67 games last year, and now, basically with what seemed an inocuos trade, completely imploded. I guess Dirk going down will somehow make people forget how screwed up this team got.

    It's just so easy to break a good team.

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    Lakers and likely the Hornets and Blazers are coming on and will be in a position to dominate in the West the next few years. Blowing it up is not a bad idea because the chances of making changes around the fringes and being a strong le contender the next two three years, the life span of many of the Mavs players, is slim at best. Cuban rolled the dice on Kidd and has come up craps.

    Spurs don't make some dramatic moves this summer and they aren't in much better shape.

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    ^ Kidd's contract comes off the books next year. Oden and the Blazers aren't going to win a le next year but will probably vault into the playoffs. Dirk will turn 30 this summer. I give it one more shot for 08/09 before blowing it up.

    Kidd of course looks better running the motion Princeton offense than he does doing the iso sets in Dallas. We need to get some athletes to run with him. I love Dirk, I want more than anything to see him climb that mountain here in Dallas.

    The Lakers are going to have a financial crunch after next year when they will need to resign both Odom and Bynum. The reason they can afford the roster they have now is because Bynum is on his rookie contract. They will have some tough choices when it comes time to extend him. Will George Shinn continue to spend money to keep NOLA in the upper echelon, especially given the weak financial base in southern Louisiana?

    I blow it up next February if this thing continues to circle the drain.

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    Buss may be willing to lose Odom but he'll still have Bynum, Gasol and Kobe with some nice role players.
    Hornets are not in any luxury tax problems and can even comfortably add a MLE next year.
    Portland is going to click and come on fast at some point. Fernandez will be coming over in all likelihood. Oden should be back. A lottery pick. They'll have a boatload of cap space in '09 and they want to target Paul or Williams. Maybe Mavs have one more faint, faint hope with this team IF they can bring in some pieces. IF ...

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