Yeah it's hard to know if Tatum is quite A level based on small sample size, but I lean closer to A than to B based on him putting up slightly above average efficiency numbers, which is pretty impressive IMO when you factor in the gulf of talent difference between Division 1 NCAA and the NBA. Both Ingram and Brown are below average NBA players by their efficiency ratings and that's after two years. They were both complete players by efficiency in their rookie years. I also think Brown is a slightly better prospect since he's healthier and since he wasn't putting up empty numbers on a lottery team the way Ingram was.
Players like Kuzma/Ingram will likely never have more trade value than they have right now. So if you want to trade them do it now by making the Lakers use those assets to get the Spurs something they really want in a three way trade. I also don't think Ingram + Jackson is anywhere near as good as Tatum + filler. A star player is easily worth way more than a couple of competent starters.
Honestly, there isn't a single player on the Lakers Roster I would take. Ball is as much a cancer as Kry is. I'm disappointed that Kry turned out to be the guy he is, he seemed better than this.
This might be the all time worst a star on Kawhi’s level has acted towards a team and it’s fanbase. Just pathetic.
If the market in 2 years is 25-30M then, by definition, that is more value than he has now (ingram). I don't know if his market will be that but, using the assumption you out for regarding that number then that's real value.
How are they going to have more trade value when due a big payday the next season than they will now while being cheap for two more seasons? That makes no sense.
If Kawhi is demanding LA, then he stands to lose a ton of money if he says he will bolt in FA, right? Even if the Spurs low balled him at say 190M, that is still roughly 50M more than what he could get in FA, right? Not to mention risking injury all that time.
Does he really want to play in LA THAT BAD and give up that much money? Or is he just that confident that Spurs will deal him ASAP?
Also Ben Simmons is A+ IMO. He's the most impressive rookie I have seen since Davis or LeBron.
He's trying to force a trade, and then force another trade to LA before the deadline, netting him full Bird rights to re-sign with the Lakers, 5/$179M. If we simply hold onto him, LA has to gut their roster, Ball, Kuzma, Deng, Ingram, Hart next summer to offer him 4/$139M. If you square up on Pop, prepare to get punched. Costing him that $40M makes up for him stealing $19M with his fugazi injury last year.
Because, in your scenario, the play they have exhibited on the court warrants a $25-$30M salary.
Spurs may have to take the Lakers package because now Kawhi is saying if traded he will sign with Lakers in 2019. That hurts his value right there, no team is going to give up anything significant for a 1 year rental of Kawhi. Lakers don't even have to trade for Kawhi, he already said he will sign there in 2019.
Spurs either take the best trade offer or let him play out his contract and walk and they get nothing.
The Lakers would actually only be able to offer 4 years, $130 million on a $108 million cap when factoring in ten cap holds for the ten empty roster spots under twelve at $889k each, assuming the sign James to a 35% max deal and PG13 to a 30% max deal this summer. They also have to salary dump their first round pick next season. So you're costing him $49 million.
Spurs are not going to get any good value for him with his demands to be in LA but they can still trade him to some random team for scrubs. I live in Charlotte and know Michael Jordan would be more than willing to take him for a 1 year rental. I would be down with sending him to Charlotte and having him suffer playing for Jordan for 1 year.
All these garbage trades for Kawhi...this is karma for crapping on Indiana for the Hill trade way back when.
Just like Evan Turner's play warranted him making $16 million when the cap was only $84 million? Market value greatly overrates the value of B-level and even C-level players (while greatly undervaluing A-level talent) thanks to how the CBA is structured.
Still worth it, got a le and another Finals trip out of it.
Spurs should not just take anything. Let him sit out a year. Let's see how good that does for him. Media will love that . Choosing to cry and not play. They will eat him up...
To greatly overpay like Turner an organization has to make a mistake, that's why teams have bad contracts on their books (mozgov,deng,Parsons etc). I don't think we give out ling term bad contracts. So if his market value isn't 25M we wouldn't offer that and if it is he'd be worth keeping at that price, in addition if he was worth that and didn't fit here then we could trade him locked up on a long contract to a team for commensurate value. The only key factor is what he'll really be worth in two years.
Right, so what in the world is his camp thinking? They really think Spurs will do him a solid and trade him to LA? Do they not realize how much money stands to be lost, or do they just want to be in LA that bad?
Bat crazy!
Not only will he be losing money, but he will end up throwing away two years of his prime going through all of this and risking injury before he's able to sign another contract. They really didn't think this through before they decided to drag the organization through the mud.
Hope Pop lets Leonard know the closest he’ll get to the Olympics is a TV next to uncle Denny.
If Lakers want to make a deal for Kawhi and include create super team with LeBron etc.. they must get a 3rd team involved either that’s Phoenix,Sac, Atlanta or Memphis..
Getting Doncic IMO should be the Spurs goal..Force the Lakers to help you get a top pick by trading Ball, Ingram, Kuzma to assist getting that pick.
That’s the only way I move Kawhi to LA..
...and Kawhi loses $49M dollars. See baseline's post on this page. If we're not getting , let him not get , either.
One question that has not been answered did he give a list of teams he wanted to go to or did he just say only LA? I know ESPN is preaching the LA thing but they worse then CNN fake news crap.
These aren't professional agents Spurs are dealing with. This is Kawhi's uncle. Who knows who has been whispering in his ear, helping to create this drama. When you are not trained for this, you make huge mistakes along the way.
Lame
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