I believe angel_luv is a fantastic troll. Only she can rile up the club like this.
excellent work
I'm not sure what you mean by literalist Christian.
I'm talking about most of the Christian faiths that I have come across.
no it's not like saying that.sorry man.
that's like saying i'm not interested in eating healthy or exercising.
my goal is to lose weight.
why wouldn't it be possible to give your life when being involuntarily incarcerated?okay. i don't know. maybe they can, maybe they can't. i think it could be possible for someone who has committed the act of murder to repent. i mean truly repent, and give their lives to Christ. but people are very flippant about what 'give your life to Christ' means. and whether that is possible when involuntarily incarcerated is a whole nuther question.
what would be the difference between that and given a diagnosis of a terminal disease?
can the person with the terminal disease not truly repent either?
I believe angel_luv is a fantastic troll. Only she can rile up the club like this.
excellent work
I meant to put i'm sure she's NOT trying to gold dig.
whoa.
If you don't like it AL, don't put it out there for people to dissect and then give their opinions.
On top of that, if you are really that confident in yourself and how you are living your life then you should really not care what some poster on a message board says about you.
It really is the truth!
Originally, I wanted to get married on October 10, 2010.
But Bo insisted that we get married sooner so frequently and passionately that he convinced me marry him on October 10, 2009. And even after I made that concession, I STILL received e-mails from Bo where he is ruefully counting down the oh so many days till our wedding date.
I have never once had to wonder if Bo really wanted to marry me. That is one of the many things I appreciate about Bo.![]()
I'm sure she doesn't really care about what these people are saying. imho, she just enjoys sharing her life with the spurstalk community. I don't think she is here trying to get justification of her decision from random strangers.
I think ploto is just giving an honest opinion based on what you have posted.
I don't see anything malicious.
I don't mind people having their say. I am not afraid to live honestly before people as I search and seek, try and fail, and find my way. I know that consequences of putting myself out there and they are ones I can live with.
I just view comments from you, for example, and Ploto differently.
You have never indicated to me that we are friends. You are all around consistent in your behavior towards me. I appreciate that about you, even when I disagree with your opinion.
With Ploto, she and I have had very cordial discussions concerning the Raptors and those led me to view her as a friend.
And I would not speak to a friend as harshly as I feel Ploto has often addressed me in recent threads.
So, though perhaps I erred by mis-catergorizing Ploto's and my correspondence as a friendship, I was nevertheless disappointed to have to acknowledge that my friend, really is not one.
Blake 12:23
sometimes the true friends art the ones that giveth you their honest opinions about you instead of whateth you wanteth to heareth.
how can she honestly say that they, together, came to these decisions when she fully admitted to being the one that dominates them all?
I wouldn't put that pedestal too high ....
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No, you guys are right.
I do care what Ploto thinks. I am not sure why, other than I really did think we were friends and I am not used to friends speaking to me the way she has.
Maybe I was somewhat over-sensitive.
maybe you found out that you can't dominate her the way you do bo.
Yes, I agree a friend should be honest with you.
But I think a friend has an equal responsibility to help you better understand yourself by asking you questions that get you talking and problem solving, instead of making snide remarks that make you feel ashamed or unworthy or stupid.
Also a true friend knows that no one is ever always on the top of their game and does not repeatedly kick you when you are down.
A friend might also recognize and appreciate how I am trying to find my way in life and give me a chance to succeed rather than assume I am going to fail.
I've come to appreciate Ploto's posts over the past few years and I find myself agreeing with her more than not. I can't speak to whether or not you two are friends as I've never been privy to your private conversation but I don't think Ploto wishes you ill will or to piss you off with any of her posts.
I think that Ploto - like most on here - have trouble with looking at things with your point of view because quite frankly your point of view is incredibly different than most other people. So when you say some of the things you do, the first reaction many people have is "Uh, what?". So just think of those posts as Ploto saying "Uh, what?" in her own way.
I just know that when most of you " Uh, what?" me, I do not walk away from the conversation self-doubting and/ or feeling compelled to be ashamed of myself.
I know my views are radically different than yours. But on the same token, your views are radically different than mine.
I truly hope I have never made anyone feel worthless or useless because the decisions they make are not the ones I make.
If that's how remarks make you feel, then that's on you.
eh, I guess I would define that person as a coach.Also a true friend knows that no one is ever on the top of their game and does not repeatedly kick you when you are down.
A friend might also tell you that he/she thinks you are driving off a cliff.A friend might also recognize and appreciate how I am trying to find my way in life and give me a chance to succeed rather than assume I am going to fail.
If you feel that you aren't, then say "thanks for the advice friend, duly noted".
It seems hard, but it's really pretty simple.
why are you self-doubting?
a literalist Christian is a professed Christian whom interprets the bible literally 100%.
you want an answer that you have to earn handed to you on a silver platter.no it's not like saying that.
i didn't say it's not possible...i said i didn't know, but i seems to me that it's easy to make a choice when it's the only one you got. is it really a choice at that point? i can profess to be Mr. Charitable 2010, but what does that mean if i'm broke?why wouldn't it be possible to give your life when being involuntarily incarcerated?
what would be the difference between that and given a diagnosis of a terminal disease?
can the person with the terminal disease not truly repent either?
worthless and useless are point of views dependent on the beholder.
God, Jesus, spiritual enlightenment are meaningless to some.
Material objects are meaningless to others.
are people really thinking you're gonna lets you kids go hungry from quitting a job at the mall?
or are they thinking, just don't come crying to us when you can't afford that big house, new car, etc, etc.
Cuz that what this really comes down to. Material vs. Spiritual.
Because I want to much to do the right thing and I have seriously wrestled over this decision. And I do recognize the ways that this move can be rightly categorized as risky.
I have been through a lot this past year. I have had to deal with a lot of situations that taxed me greatly emotionally and physically, though I won't bore you with the details.
I have done the very best to handle everything that has been thrown at me.
And I am very hopeful that now that some of the outer storms have subsided that Bo and I can begin to in earnest build the home and life that we desire to have together.
Ploto seems to make the assumption that my life is always sunshine and roses.
I have a lot to be grateful for and I choose to always be an eternal optimist.
But I have had to look past my share of dark clouds in order to find the silver lining.
And if Ploto had taken the time to get to know me, she would know that it was not an easy thing for me to quit my job. Even though I do not like the job, I love that twice a month money is flowing into my bank account. That has always given me a sense of security and of all the aspects of life I value, security is way up there on this list.
In quitting my job, I am having to reliquish control ( i.e. my paycheck, my security blanket) and trust Bo to provide financially. If I want spending money from now on, I will have to ask Bo for it. I won't have "my" money anymore.
That reality is not an easy one for a girl who is accustomed to take care of herself.
Bo and I jointly decided I would leave the mall job because having two jobs was not profitable to Bo's and my relationship. Bo and I have rejected what does not work for us and are taking great strides at disovering what does.
We ought to be commended for that, I think.
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