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If I were a betting man I wouldn't hold steady on that 16 for 4 on Bonner.
Splitter's contract is not only a good deal for him, his presence on the team suddenly makes Bonner's contract better. Tiago in the rotation takes away many of Bonner's negatives and none of his positives. If Bonner's not going to be asked to defend Pau Gasol and Lamarcus Aldridge in the post every night, and can go back to being a role player who shoots threes and creates an occasional mismatch, the Spurs are suddenly that much better. In other words, you don't need Bonner to hit 40 percent from three every single time he's on the floor in order to make up for what you lose on the other end. He's a much more effective weapon if you can choose your spots.
If I were a betting man I wouldn't hold steady on that 16 for 4 on Bonner.
Who isn't?
Yep, has been odd... I can't help but be disappointed in making so many great moves, and then taking a step back like that. All-in-all this summer has been a success so far tho.
American Flag loyalists.
Are those numbers confirmed anywhere? I've never been able to find that info anywhere but here.
Only 'cause their flags aren't made of weed.
its like a chess game, take one wrong step and you can lose the whole board game...
That's just what I read. I hope it's waaaaaaaay off the mark... 8/4 would be about right IMHO. If Pop needs his stretch-4 security blanket, 2mil a yr is a fair price.
Also, Bonner tries really hard and did add to his game last year. At times he even played nice D... I particularly remember one game against Dirk where he did a solid job.
Let's just hope Bonner plays in appropriate spots rather than as a regular rotation guy.
Couldn't agree with you more...
OV, pretty sure those numbers are just speculation.
Bonner's a very good to excellent defender as long as you don't overmatch him or expect him to be Rasheed Wallace defending the post. If they didn't overpay for him that's just more good news on all fronts.
If the Bonner numbers on this site are off, that potentially changes the caliber of free agent they can go after, right? Maybe they misreported the Bonner numbers where they did until after RJ's contract is signed.
Couldn't agree more. At that price he is paid to do what hes good at - without the added pressure of being expected to do everything else.
Yeah, hes a good defender because he gives 100% effort on man to man defense. But his presence just gives the offensive player confidence.. and a confident scorer is hard to stop. I think he would benefit from an enforcer defender where hes not afraid to knock people down and rough them up.. I mean he does a good job being physical already. I'm not sure thats within his personality though.. hes too goofy.
Really? I'd go as high as good when he's in the right matchup, but excellent!? WhatyousmokinWillis?
But yeah, I don't mind Bonner as long as he plays against the right teams and in appropriate situations. I have also come to enjoy his fake-and-go-to-the-hole-for-ugly-running-hook-that-hits-nothing-but-net play. He hits it most of the time, strangely.
bonner aint worth the pay rise he got, if the spurs offered him the minimum, he wouldve taken it...
Great news!!! Before reading Bruno's posts I would not have thought a deal like this was possible but he is usually right...
Splitter just got married, will play in the nba on a great team and earn millions of dollars. Would be kind of stupid to feel sorry for him I guess. (Well I never met his wife hehe).
I hope we go for the best defender among the available SF's and a Spurs type team player. Should be much more important to find a SF than finding a 6th big. RJ will return I guess but still need a backup.
Go Josh Howard!
Cut the years down to 3, and keep the money around $2-2.5 million and I'll completely shut up about Bonner... I don't really want him here, but I could live with that.
I've been thinking maybe one of the reasons they want to keep Bonner around is to give Ryan Richards a blueprint of how they want him to play within the system, while bringing his athleticism to it. I don't know if he can be that good of a shooter tho. Hard to base it off youtube highlight videos and draft scouting reports, but he seems to at least have the potential to be. What do yall think? Logical reasoning?
I guess it would all depend on how high the Spurs are on Richards... he may be just an afterthought to them, in which case no way that's one of the reasons... but if they're high on him, it could very well played a part.
Last edited by Dro210; 07-13-2010 at 02:31 AM.
Are you kidding me Bonner was signed close to or more than Splitter's total package. The one thing you hope won't happen is if Pop gives Bonner minutes at the expense of developing Splitter. I don't care if Splitter plays like crap in his first few games. give him the minutes ! You'r better off with him commiting all kinds of rookie mistakes with the hope that he can be a major contibutor sooner or in time for the playoffs rather than use an efficent Bonner ( who knows the system , won't make many mistakes) but is totally useless come playoff time. You can give Bonner all the minutes possible and he still won't be able to defend a Gasol or Odom in the playoffs, at least with Splitter you have a fighting chance.
Really? I'd go as high as good when he's in the right matchup, but excellent!? WhatyousmokinWillis?
But yeah, I don't mind Bonner as long as he plays against the right teams and in appropriate situations. I have also come to enjoy his fake-and-go-to-the-hole-for-ugly-running-hook-that-hits-nothing-but-net play. He hits it most of the time, strangely.
For as much as he choked in the playoffs, The guy isn't that bad of a player.
Thats why I always find the overreaction to Matt Bonner laughable.
Is he a reliable starting 4? no.
Is he a good off the bench big that can contribute to a winning team?
yes.
Don't over rely on him and everything is fine. Thats been the problem the last two years, he's been over relied on way too much.
Now, if Splitter pans out, he will not be relied on THEORETICALLY.
Thats why per se, I wasn't ready to storm the ATT Center with a damn pitchfork when they said he'd been resigned. If they had signed just him, and not Splitter or anyone else? Then yeah, offseason fail.
For me the offseason hinges on who they get at the wing position defensively.
A player like Raja Bell has been needed for a while.
My guess is Bonner really got 4 years, $11-12 million ...performance incentives, 4th year team option. No one has confirmed that he got a raise. That article we all read might have just assumed so.
don't know if posted yet:
Tiago Splitter contract is actually 3 years for $10.9 million with Spurs, league source says. He will make $3.4 million this season.
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18393536959
So theoretically 3 years 9 million.
Meh....
I'm still waiting for an insider
I'm hoping he gets 4 years 8 million.. because then hes actually getting paid for what hes good at. 2 million for a good to ocassional great shooter off the bench that can't otherwise contribute consistently in any other area. With that contract maybe the fans won't overreact so much to his shortcomings.
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