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    "D'Souza even sees clues in the book's le: "Notice it says `Dreams From My Father,' not `of' my father," D'Souza says."

    Dreams of my Father would have been a stupid le.
    No it wouldn't. Either one would work, they would just convey different meanings

    Syntax can provide insight... its explained pretty well in the movie an interesting observation, at least

    "Dreams of" would convey "these are my dads dreams" (not necessarily mine)
    "Dreams from" conveys "these are dreams I inherited from my father"

    It matters if your Dad is a staunch anti-colonialist
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    No it wouldn't. Either one would work, they would just convey different meanings

    Syntax can provide insight... its explained pretty well in the movie an interesting observation, at least

    "Dreams of" would convey "these are my dads dreams" (not necessarily mine)
    "Dreams from" conveys "these are dreams I inherited from my father"

    It matters if your Dad is a staunch anti-colonialist
    or it could simply mean that he thought the le sounded cooler..

    lol


    question: if is his dad was never in his life, how did these views permeate Obama's life? Osmosis?


    Sort of like saying, " I have never met my dad but his views have shaped my outlook on life.."

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    On most movie rating sites the ratings are mostly 10s or 1s. God bless

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    or it could simply mean that he thought the le sounded cooler..

    lol

    question: if is his dad was never in his life, how did these views permeate Obama's life? Osmosis?
    From his mother who, according to Dinesh D'Souza continued to idolize the father long after their separation.

    You should see the movie. The scene where Dinesh D'Souza portrays Obama's autobiographical description of returning to his father's grave is particularly poignant.

    Sort of like saying, " I have never met my dad but his views have shaped my outlook on life.."
    Precisely. How else to explain how much he talks about his father's influence in the autobiography? Dinesh D'Souza didn't just make up the narrative of the movie, he used Obama's own words.

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    or it could simply mean that he thought the le sounded cooler..

    lol


    question: if is his dad was never in his life, how did these views permeate Obama's life? Osmosis?


    Sort of like saying, " I have never met my dad but his views have shaped my outlook on life.."

    Yonivore already touched on your other questions, but that's a fair point - it might just be that he thought it sounded cooler. But that would be pretty flippant if it were the case.

    One of the things the movie goes over as well as the way his mom idealized his father is that they kept corresponding a long time after they met.

    In any case, if his fathers views hadn't helped shape his life why would he write a book at all about that, regardless of the le?

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    So right wingers, what's your bottom line on 2016?

    Now you really know why you hate him?

    As if you didn't already know Obama and his policies, after he's been 3.5 years in office.

    We know WAY MORE about Obama than we do about super secretive Gecko who destroyed/secreted his MA gov records ( a VERY moderate public record, which is why Repug extremists don't trust him), his NoWhereLand Olympic records, and his tax returns.

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    Yonivore already touched on your other questions, but that's a fair point - it might just be that he thought it sounded cooler. But that would be pretty flippant if it were the case.

    One of the things the movie goes over as well as the way his mom idealized his father is that they kept corresponding a long time after they met.

    In any case, if his fathers views hadn't helped shape his life why would he write a book at all about that, regardless of the le?
    because it's an autobiography? and parents can shape their children's lives without the children espousing everyone of their views.. is that possible?

    So if I wrote a book about my dad and stated that he liked to chase women and gamble.... I then run for office and want to legalize poker, does that mean my dad shaped my world view on gambling?

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    because it's an autobiography? and parents can shape their children's lives without the children espousing everyone of their views.. is that possible?

    So if I wrote a book about my dad and stated that he liked to chase women and gamble.... I then run for office and want to legalize poker, does that mean my dad shaped my world view on gambling?
    Have you read the book?

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    Yoni, I don't know if you have found the theaters here in SA, but check this link out.
    http://events.mysanantonio.com/movie...obamas-america

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    Yoni, I don't know if you have found the theaters here in SA, but check this link out.
    http://events.mysanantonio.com/movie...obamas-america
    Thanks! Saw the movie in Austin last Friday.

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    so this movie reinforces what conservatives think about him.. and conservatives say as such... mmk

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    I rremember when Paul O'Neil's book came out and he made the claim that immediately after after 9/11 thne decision to invade Iraq was made..which contradicted the administration.... yet yoni and his ilk didn't believe O'neil..called hima disgruntled former employee..now we have a well known Obama critic making a movie about obama that reiniforces conservative veiws.. not a question regarding his motives...

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    so this movie reinforces what conservatives think about him.. and conservatives say as such... mmk
    Actually, it doesn't reinforce what conservatives think about Obama.

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    I rremember when Paul O'Neil's book came out and he made the claim that immediately after after 9/11 thne decision to invade Iraq was made..which contradicted the administration.... yet yoni and his ilk didn't believe O'neil..called hima disgruntled former employee..now we have a well known Obama critic making a movie about obama that reiniforces conservative veiws.. not a question regarding his motives...
    Don't remember any of that enough to know if your mischaracterizing any of it.

    Look! Bush!

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    So the board idiots here say we should fear Obama because he is apparently anti-colonialist.

    Are the idiots arguing that he should be a colonialist?

    Are the idiots themselves colonialists?

    BTW, I saw an extensive interview with the idiot who made this film talking about his film, so I don't need to see this piece of . We have almost four years of Obama (executive experience!) to tell us what kind of president Obama is going to be for another four years. I can believe the idiots here fell for this because they are idiots. These are the idiots who don't even believe Obama wrote his own autobiography. Make up your minds, idiots. You're just like 9/11 truthers, eagerly believing any pile of conspiracy that your gleeful blog overlords shove down your throat and tell you to believe -- as long as you can root for your team.

    Ron bless.

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    Actually, it doesn't reinforce what conservatives think about Obama.
    The board liberals will not believe me, I doubt they will believe you either, and are too hard headed to see for themselves.

    They are just lemmings of the leftist pundits.

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    The board liberals will not believe me, I doubt they will believe you either, and are too hard headed to see for themselves.

    They are just lemmings of the leftist pundits.
    why is there any need for anybody to see this mormon movie?

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    why is there any need for anybody to see this mormon movie?
    Why do you continually expose your stupidity by calling it a Mormon movie? If you are going to assign religion to who made the movie, it's a Protestant movie.

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    Why do you continually expose your stupidity by calling it a Mormon movie? If you are going to assign religion to who made the movie, it's a Protestant movie.
    its a mormon movie.

    have you seen fahrenheit 911?

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    its a mormon movie.
    Liar.
    have you seen fahrenheit 911?
    Yes.

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    I cannot fathom why anyone with a working brain stem would sit and watch this movie.

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    a mormon movie

    Yes.
    i haven't. why did you need to see that movie?

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    a mormon movie



    i haven't. why did you need to see that movie?
    I did see Roger and Me. Pretty funny.

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    I cannot fathom why anyone with a working brain stem would sit and watch this movie.
    they need to be fed.

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