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    i try not to sound like a broken record, i guess it helps?
    yeah youre just the static in the background

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    yeah youre just the static in the background
    ooooh, damn that was almost witty. and with little latency, nonetheless.

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    sign the freakin dude already

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    What's even more pathetic is according to news reports in Denver we offered Elson more than Butler.

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    but anyways, hope the knicks don't match. i still think the spurs can pull off some trades, but i am not hoping for too much. no one wants to be the team that helps the spurs out that much.

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    If the Knicks don't match this, the Spurs pull off a coup. If they do, then the Spurs look pretty damn stupid for not offering up enough.

    Why don't you all let it play it out before you decide?

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    If the Knicks don't match this, the Spurs pull off a coup. If they do, then the Spurs look pretty damn stupid for not offering up enough.

    Why don't you all let it play it out before you decide?
    i was right all along sounds better?

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    If the Knicks don't match this, the Spurs pull off a coup. If they do, then the Spurs look pretty damn stupid for not offering up enough.

    Why don't you all let it play it out before you decide?
    ok, see you back here on june 20th or so, 2007.

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    Actually, after seeing that the offered Elson more, I already think the front office is stupid. WTF? Now if the Knicks match they are INCREDIBLY ing stupid.

    They still aren't cheap, but I'd rather have a cheap front office than a stupid one. What the flying are they thinking? I'm going to be PISSED if they don't sign Butler.

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    dude, you just changed your mind in like 1.5 minutes. some kind of st.com record

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    dude, you just changed your mind in like 1.5 minutes. some kind of st.com record
    Finding out that the Spurs offered Elson more than Butler requires drastic rethinking of the entire situation. I'm perplexed and I just hope that these ers know something about what it takes to get each respective player out of each team's hands that we dont' because on the surface those 2 contract offers don't make any ing sense unless you reverse the numbers.

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    the spurs must have talked to their agents and found out what denver would match and would not and what knicks would match

    and then offered them a little more

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    the spurs must have talked to their agents and found out what denver would match and would not and what knicks would match

    and then offered them a little more
    Thats exactly what I was thinking...Hopefully its right.

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    well I hope I am right on butler and wrong on elson

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    Spurs9 check your pm

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    Finding out that the Spurs offered Elson more than Butler requires drastic rethinking of the entire situation. I'm perplexed and I just hope that these ers know something about what it takes to get each respective player out of each team's hands that we dont' because on the surface those 2 contract offers don't make any ing sense unless you reverse the numbers.
    welcome to the dark side of spurs fandom. once you peek behind the curtain everything changes...

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    Elson is on my list if we don't get Butler.

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    *crossing fingers*

    Please don't match Isiah. Please!

    I'm with the rest of you - if we get Butler, then I'm fine with Elson. If Isiah matches Butler, then getting Elson as our starting center is some ing bull .

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    I don't think Spurs offer Butler less if they know Knicks will match.

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    but the spurs thriftiness is something to worship! :lmfao

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    but the spurs thriftiness is something to worship! :lmfao
    Thirftness.

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    Could Spurs put in a poison pill like if Butler doesn't average 20 minutes a game he has the option to become an unrestricted FA.

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    how about the ever dangerous...'team must provide socks' clause?

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    3 years, $7 million????

    That's like 6 games' salary for their stable of point guards. They'll match that with the Franchise's strip club tip money.
    Yeah, it's pretty hopeless.

    Perhaps the Spurs faxed the wrong proposal to the wrong guy. They might be the only scouts in the world who view Elson as better than Butler.

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    Butler is served
    Knicks center gets Spurs' offer

    BY FRANK ISOLA
    DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

    Jackie Butler signed a three-year, $7 million offer sheet with the San Antonio Spurs yesterday, but the Knicks, according to sources, intend to the keep the 21-year-old center.

    The Knicks have seven days to match the offer or work out a sign-and-trade for Butler, a player Isiah Thomas uncovered in the CBA two years ago.

    Joining the Spurs would be more beneficial to Butler because it would give him an opportunity to start alongside Tim Duncan and play with a perennial contender. The Spurs lost Nazr Mohammed to free agency and traded Rasho Nesterovic. In New York, Butler would be playing behind Eddy Curry and Jerome James.

    The Knicks made a qualifying offer of $900,000 to Butler and questioned whether he could get a better deal. Thomas even predicted that negotiations with Butler would extend into September.

    "My summer is much shorter," said Butler's agent, Keith Glass.

    The 6-10, 265-pound Butler averaged 5.3 points, 3.3 rebounds and shot 54% from the field in 55 games with the Knicks. He is regarded as a better low-post player than James. By re-signing Butler, Thomas has the flexibility to include him in a trade if he cannot move James. Butler also provides insurance if Curry or James is injured.

    Butler's increased role last season - he played more minutes than James - created some animosity between Thomas and former coach Larry Brown. Some in the front office felt that Brown favored Butler because he is represented by the son of Brown's agent, Joe Glass. The Knicks fired Brown last month and are trying to void the final four years of his contract, worth $40 million. Brown maintained that he simply felt that Butler was the better player.

    "Without being coy about it, Larry is a part of my family," Keith Glass said from Las Vegas. "I clearly have thoughts and emotions and my emotions lie with them. Jackie has nothing to do with that. I've always understood that."

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