Chill me fellow mav brother. They say kids like your self resort to foul language because they lack intelligence. Prove to me and theses other posters that you have the mental capacity to carry on an intelligent basketball conversation with out having to lower your self to that level.
What ever ! I don't want no history lesson. Even though that's why teams play the game for is to win a championship. We beat you guys and that's better than any championship. that were barley a half game over you guys for the record. Even though we choked the last four games of the finals, I'm still very confident that we'll beat you guys just because we beat you last year and that means that if we meat again in the playoffs then well automatically beat you again.
you - and stretch, you're a dumbass - your Mavs have a defense that is 2 points better than the Suns' (at best)... in fact, it's only 1-point better than the Suns' because a D'Antoni tech gave them 1...
Show me Dirk and JET winning a le with that kind of play and I'll give them their props...
You shouldn't post when your mouth is full of .
Show me the 2 time mvp even getting to the finals and I'll give props.
With all the bull calls in this game going the suns way the mavs would've won by more
okey dokey. shall do.
however, are you really a mavs fan? cuz ive also seen someone with the name "IGNORANT SPURS FAN".
lol, horrible basketball logic.
After watching a good majority of Suns games this year, I've concluded this:
The Suns are not a bad defensive team. In the last 10 games, in fact, the Suns are holding opponents to the lowest percentage in the league: .425, narrowly beating out Detroit, Utah, and Houston. If you count tonight's game against the Knicks, who the Suns held to under 38% shooting, that percentage is even lower.
On the season, the Suns are holding opponents to an average of about .450, which is good enough for 9th or 10th in the NBA. That's better than Dallas and San Antonio.
The Suns' biggest weakness is defensive rebounding.
They desperately need another rebounder on the roster. Unfortunately, Shawn Marion is being forced to guard smaller opponents, which means he's not in a great position to rebound (since he's guarding on the perimeter). Kurt Thomas isn't getting more than 20 minutes a game, so there's not much he can do to affect this problem. Boris Diaw looks to be more of a playmaker than a force inside, so he's not helping much.
Amare Stoudemire is doing a decent job of attacking the boards, but he doesn't have a nose for the ball like Marion does.
The Suns need to address this problem before the playoffs, or it will be their undoing. If they can remedy this problem and become a better rebounding team, then they'll be one tiny step ahead of both San Antonio and Dallas, theoretically.
That's the difference in Spurs fans and Mavs fans. Mavs are just as happy to beat Spurs than they would be to win a championship. To Spurs fan, the Mavs are just another stepping stone to yet another le. We just tripped on that stone last year and hope not to do it again. But the Spurs are not all-consumed with the Mavs....we worry about Phoenix, Denver, LA, Utah just as much as dallas.
With any of the over-the-backs called on Diop/Dirk, there wouldn't have been 15 offensive rebounds.
You're saying 10 first-quarter fouls on the Suns vs. 2 against the Mavs was the going the Suns way? I'll even use the typical Mavs' fan defense that the Mavs shot 7 more FTs than the Suns.
The problem with the Suns is that they showed intensity on the glass and on the defensive end throughout this whole game except for a few key stretches in the 1st and 4th quarters, which blew it for them. Because today's modern TV displays cut-scenes of every ing player that makes a shot, I wasn't able to see the poor in-bounds plays the Suns made about 3 different times in this game that led to about 8 points for the Mavs.
I don't know why they played so nervous in the first half and for about 4 minutes in the 4th. Especially Raja Bell, who never seems to make dumb mistakes like that...
those stats are nice. however, its much better to wait until the season is almost over to really get a good judgement of how good their defense really is, after they have played some more good teams. and so far, they havent fared well against good teams at all. they have lost in their 2 games against Dallas, 2 games against Utah, 1 game against San Antonio, and 1 game against LAL. the only win that they have had against a truly quality team, a team that can contend for a le, is Houston. they need to prove that they can play good defense against good teams. not just junk teams.
you hit the nail right on the head. they made mistakes in KEY stretches. KEY. the key word is KEY. a few bad mistakes at bad times loses games. all teams make mistakes. its a matter of when they make them. great teams that have won les, like the Lakers, Pistons, and Spurs would rarely make mistakes at key moments in games, and thats was the difference between them and everyone else in the league.
At least we agree on something... we could have come to this conclusion pages ago if you just would have said the Suns blew it with costly mistakes at the wrong times instead of making a blanket statement like "their whole defense sucks"
11 Freaking pages about one game?
Wow, Stretch, the Suns are really worrying you, huh?
I think it's more the suns fans like to talk a lot of and their team doesn't back it up.
Aside from the costly mistakes, their defense still does suck. That's why they will never make it past the semifinals. Unless, of course, they get lucky and don't have to play the mavs or spurs like last season.
i suppose. i just now prefer not to go into discussions about defense with people who think you can win a championship with minimal defense and minimal rebounding abilities. its a waste of time.
perhaps. perhaps not. but i tell you who needs to worry, are suns fans. the team still doesnt consistently make big plays when they need them, still are a weak defensive team, and are a weak rebounding team. yall can show me all the stats you want, but i promise you guys, the thing that will end the season early for the suns will be their lack of defense and rebounding. everyone will talk about the fact that they lost because they couldnt play good enough defense and rebound the ball well enough, and once again, reality will hit, that you cannot win with a team built the way the Suns are built.
Not a bad job against the Pistons - key defensive stops helped the Suns get the win today... Of course, Detroit didn't have Chauncey, so it can only go so far, but the Suns didn't have Amare last year in the WCF, so....
no nowitzki tonight in the game against the nuggets on a btb for dallas in denver
jho's stat line: 10-16 field goals, 3-7 3pointers, 5-6 free throws, (4 offensive, 13 defensive) 17 REBOUNDS, 5 assists, 3 blocks...28 points
they barely won a game against a billups-less pistons team yesterday...they haven't proven anything other than that they can keep it close and exciting at times...still 0-5 against the top three teams in the west this season
i will admit that you can't just relax when playing the suns or you'll get down very quickly but i wouldn't say the suns *scare* mavericks fans...or spurs fans for that matter
He caught those rebounds with his retainer. Once David Stern outlaws orthodontics, Josh Howard will be nobody... haha
Just stop trying to applaud Howard for a single good game against a nobody.
then perhaps you should stop trying to applaud the Phoenix D for building decent defensive stats against ty teams.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote