Stoudemire and Diaw have to be Suspended

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'd prefer no Suns suspensions. Its not really warranted.

Agreed.

And I don't think they will be suspended.

We'll have to win it fair and square, without Horry who I bet will be suspended, if we can do that.

[RonMexico]

It all sucks because two key Suns post players could be out for the most pivotal game of the series for an event that didn't escalate beyond Horry throwing an elbow into Raja Bell's throat.

I thought it was hilarious that Nash got up and into his face and I'm also surprised a tech wasn't called on him either, because he did more than Amare/Diaw/Bell since he actually grabbed Horry's jersey.

However, if the Spurs receive the benefit of an Amare/Diaw for Horry "trade" do we consider that a "call" in the Spurs' favor? Just food for thought....

P.S. Suns received the benefit of a lot of calls tonight, but, aside from a few flops, not all were bull .

[L.I.T]

The problem with the whole bench clearing thing is it should be put into context when determining suspensions. If the Suns players went to the fracas, re, to Horry/Raja, then alright, maybe a suspension for Diaw. If they ran over to Nash, they shouldn't be suspended for that...I have yet to watch the replay so I don't remember where they went. As for that little , Horry, he definitely should be suspended not so much for the foul, but for the b.s. afterwards. It's alright to foul hard but he's such a that he couldn't even go over to Nash after the foul and help him up. Nash went over to Parker when they collided, don't expect the same from a sorry like Horry.

I think the reason the rule is so cut and dry is intent is hard to gauge. Regulating based on intent can become dicey and very dangerous.

[Kobulingam]

Take off the Spurs GOGGLES and check the scoreboard! Suns WIN! Spurs are back to being the whiners!

Are yoou a dumb ? I know Suns won. I'm saying Horry wanted to foul nash to put him on the foul line while givnig a little extra (a playoff hard foul). He just overdid it and the physics of the situation plus a Nash flop made it look like the worst thing you've seen.

Horry didn't go for his head. Horry didn't swing at him. It's not as bad as you think. Horry will be suspended for 1 game. Raja, Amare, Diaw too.

[DarrinS]

Please, no suspensions. Hopefully, the NBA will not fullfill D'Antonio's dream of total league pussification.

[Amarelooms]

Thanks for proving my point! It's called being SOFT! That's why you lost to an #8!

Hahah if you call not trying to injure your opponent cause you can't beat em soft then I rather my team be soft. Even if the Spurs win this series the league and rest of the teams will be out against them....imagine what Utah and Detroit will get away with against you guy lol

[SpursFanFirst]

what's comical is equating Horry's actions with Stoudemire's and Diaw's.

if Amare & Boris get suspended for 1 game as they rightfully should, then Horry should be out for the remainder of the series.

I guess I don't understand your logic. You can't compare the 2 incidents...Horry vs. Diaw/Stoudemire...totally different things.
Along with each of those actions, there are rules and consequences.
In Horry's case, he picked up a flagrant2, which is a one game suspension and a fine, right? I don't know the specifics, so perhaps someone will correct this if it's wrong.
And in Diaw and Stoudemire's case, they left their bench area and entered the court, which is a big no-no with a suspension attached to it.

Just because you think Horry's mistake was bigger doesn't mean you can change the rules to fit what you want to happen.

Don't get me wrong...I'm upset that Horry even resorted to that behavior. It's extremely unfortunate, and he'll get what he deserves.
But, I think the punishment should fit ALL the crimes, not just some of them.

[ploto]

By rules set forth by the league, Horry gets a 1 game suspension for a flagrant 2.

They could suspend him more for what he did IN ADDITION to the flagrant foul.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Take off the Spurs GOGGLES and check the scoreboard! Suns WIN! Spurs are back to being the whiners!

Good for the Spurs. Only six more days of press conferences and two more games of it to catch up to what the Suns have done so far.

[ponky]

Yeah, Horry should stand over Nash like Terry did to Finley after punching him in the balls.

off, stupid Dallas wench.

Way to respond to the post . I didn't have any problems with Terry's suspension, which he readily deserved. If you weren't such a little homer, you wouldn't blindly defend what was so obviously ed up tonight with Horry's actions.

[ATXSPUR]

ALL MY FELLOW SPURS REMEMBER THIS!

[sabar]

Man I've never agreed with AHF more...
I'm scared.

[L.I.T]

It all sucks because two key Suns post players could be out for the most pivotal game of the series for an event that didn't escalate beyond Horry throwing an elbow into Raja Bell's throat.

I thought it was hilarious that Nash got up and into his face and I'm also surprised a tech wasn't called on him either, because he did more than Amare/Diaw/Bell since he actually grabbed Horry's jersey.

However, if the Spurs receive the benefit of an Amare/Diaw for Horry "trade" do we consider that a "call" in the Spurs' favor? Just food for thought....

P.S. Suns received the benefit of a lot of calls tonight, but, aside from a few flops, not all were bull .

Not particularly. They were removed from on-court play. If they get suspended, it will be as a direct result of their choices made away from the play. Now if Horry isn't suspended and they are...that's a different story.

[dbreiden83080]

As I've said, I don't think Amare or Diaw should be suspended as they didn't join the altercation. The rule was created to keep people who come in and start swinging off the court. Had they got involved, I'd say suspend them.

Horry on the other hand... An F2 will always lead to a suspension. Had Horry not raised the elbow like he did it would have just been a hard foul or F1. The raising of the elbow is what got him the F2.

You don't get it by the letter of the law you are not allowed to step on the court if you are on the bench during a altercation PERIOD. There is no gray area on this and the Knicks in 97 proves that.

[monosylab1k]

Why?

By rules set forth by the league, Horry gets a 1 game suspension for a flagrant 2.

By rules set forth by the league, those two get a 1 game suspension for leaving the bench.

And you wonder why Cuban and 99% of Mavs fans about the league being fixed? It's because they about the league trying to twist rules into a gray area to protect the stars, the exact thing you are now advocating.

Lame.

And what would your opinion be if this was Kurt Thomas knocking Tony Parker out of bounds, and Duncan & Finley were the ones that left the bench?

[PM5K]

Davis got suspended five games for entering the stands to protect his wife.

The rules are the rules, you leave the bench you sit a game...

[ponky]

ALL MY FELLOW SPURS REMEMBER THIS!

right, circle the wagons and talk so much b.s. to each that you actually believe what you're hearing with regards to tonight's incidents. if you can't make a logical argument with regards to your position then just stfu.

[RonMexico]

Nash's reaction was poor - he shouldn't have done anything ... he's always exhibited great character and judgement in the past, and this got the best of him.

And I'm speaking of Bell's turning Horry and shoving him ... and for his bull elbows earlier in the game.

Bell didn't do anything to Horry before Rob threw an elbow into his neck... I've watched the replay a hundred times and was certain Bell instigated it, but I even watched it in real-time and there was no contact until Horry threw the elbow.

If you want to talk about "bull elbows" look no further than Oberto (huge offender) and Manu... now if you meant "bull flops off screens" then Raja wins in a landslide.

How can you call into question Nash's "character" when all he does is hop up (after being slammed into the boards, btw) and grab Horry's jersey? You find it convenient not to mention the fact that Horry acted like a total thug when he's usually the calm, collected, and playful one out there? You don't think this was a stain on his "character"?

[Amarelooms]

right, circle the wagons and talk so much b.s. to each that you actually believe what you're hearing with regards to tonight's incidents. if you can't make a logical argument with regards to your position then just stfu.

Forget them ponky...can you tell us what you got on tonight? Pretty please

[ATXSPUR]

And what would your opinion be if this was Kurt Thomas knocking Tony Parker out of bounds, and Duncan & Finley were the ones that left the bench?

I would say duncan and finley sit a game. I know you suns get special treatment but in this case you SHOULD NOT be above the rules!!!

[x_roux_x]

Let me get this strait... your team acts like a buncha es and crosses the line and you EXPECT the league to help you out?

off.

Wait were u referring to ur team or the Spurs?

[sabar]

And what would your opinion be if this was Kurt Thomas knocking Tony Parker out of bounds, and Duncan & Finley were the ones that left the bench?

Then Duncan and Finley are gone and are total dumbasses for doing it. But that would never happen, because they don't have the IQ of a rock.

Typical, mavfan whines about the league twisting the rules and fixing the games and then advocates the very thing as soon as their soft team chokes in the first round.

[TheReckoning]

If this how you guys feel about everything, whats to stop D'Antoni from sending out Burke to Cold /Sucker Punch Duncan right in front of the Spurs Bench and see how many of them can "keep their cool" and stay put? I guarantee the whole bench clears.
All thats left would be for D'Antoni to make sure at least 5 guys stay seated at their bench and Suns win by default. I don't think any one here thinks that is how the series should go but that is the message that would be sent should Amare and Diaw get suspended.

[ATXSPUR]

right, circle the wagons and talk so much b.s. to each that you actually believe what you're hearing with regards to tonight's incidents. if you can't make a logical argument with regards to your position then just stfu.

I suggest you dont say anything you wouldnt say to my face.

[ponky]

And what would your opinion be if this was Kurt Thomas knocking Tony Parker out of bounds, and Duncan & Finley were the ones that left the bench?

mono!!!!! i like your avatar, i love ireland and i love rugby!

anyway, you know well what AHF's reaction would be, "SUSPENSION!!!!"