Suns fans misery index goes up a notch...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Eh, I'm bored at work. So I like to pass the time by having discussions with other people on basketball. Not really sure how this makes me pathetic.

The blind cannot see.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

What the has your team ever done worth noting? They are nowhere near the level of the top 3 teams in the legaue, being the Suns, Spurs and Mavs. They are kind of a joke to those teams that lucked out and missed the Mavs. You along with the Spurs fans in this thread are the dumbest ing sports fans I have ever come across. Unfortunately it will make me leave this board because you all are so damn clueless.

The Suns are the best damn team the Spurs faced all year, and they struggled most with them, but played best and won. The Jazz aren't very good, lucked out to get there and were run over. The Suns are far superior to them, and the Spurs superior to the Suns, FOR NOW. I accept the Suns lost the series, and always have, regardless of anything, they lost 4 times, but some of you fans are so damn idiotic you believe the Spurs should have swept them. Get over yourselves, and take a few minutes to learn sports, because most of you are the sumbest es there are.

I finally believe the fans on the Suns board are far and away more knowledgable fans, because there cannot be any dumber than you all.

Why in the is everyone doing arguing with these absolute morons! The Suns are like one of those kids that are pampered like by their parents so they feel they are en led to EVERYTHING. The media has been telling them they are pretty, and they've somehow missunderstood that to mean great.

YOUR SUNS GOT OWNED !! GET THE OVER IT!

Unfortunately it will make me leave this board because you all are so damn clueless.

is that a ing promise??

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Boris Diaw ing sucked this year. Last year was his only good year, and he wouldn't see the floor on the Jazz. I'd rather have Jarron Collins on the floor than Diaw. Remember all that ing about the suspensions? Diaw came back and scored 1 point. Saweet.

Barbosa is good. But obviously, your rotation blows. James Jones wouldn't see the floor on the Jazz. TWO bench players doesn't make you deep. That makes you 7-deep. Which sucks. The Jazz' 2nd unit is Fisher, Gordan Giricek, Matt Harpring, Paul Millsap, and Jarron Collins. Giricek & Harpring >>>>>> Jones & Rose. Not to mention we have Brewer (uber-athletic and energetic) Dee Brown (ditto) and CJ Miles (Young, young shooter). Marcus Banks and Pat Burke? Oh wait, I shouldn't mention these names because apparently your 'bench' is Barbosa and Diaw. That's it. That makes you deep? And deeper than the Jazz? Pah-lease.

Please don't tell me that smallball is going to win a championship in this era. If you think that, you're lying to yourself.

You got me. The Jazz 10 and 11 guys are better than the Sun's 10 and 11 guys. Considering we only run eight deep (which was never a problem until the suspensions) that's all that really matters. Guys like Jalen Rose and Marcus Banks who start on other teams don't see a lick of playing time over here. If you put our sixth guy (Barbosa) on Utah, he'd be their third best player. That's the talent discrepancy right there.

And once again, the Suns didn't play small ball against San Antonio. Fast break offense has proven it can win championships against
great defensive teams. If anything it's easier to win with a fast break style in this era because of the new rules that are more conduscive to offense.

[RonMexico]

Oh. Kudos on not starting a new thread. There's premature ejaculators everywhere. Some of us learned our lesson concerning that a long time ago. I got rudely surprised by the Lakers a couple of times.

That said, the Cavs are not as good as anyone the Spurs have faced so far, and it's not like anyone has pushed them particularly hard. If the Spurs find a way to lose this series it's a monumental choke. Fortunately it'll only be the second biggest choke of this year's playoffs.

Exactly - , I pulled the pre-jac on the '04 Lakers series before .4 became the new shot heard 'round the world.

And you're right, it would be a monumental choke, but nothing worse than the Mavs/Warriors especially since they were on such a "mission"

Btw, does anyone else just chuckle whenever the read/see/hear that CLEVELAND is in the Finals? I mean... THAT team?? Anderson Varejao? Damon Jones?

[OldDirtMcGirt]

The blind cannot see.

What the ?

And it seems to me as if it's more pathetic to act like a condescending nozzle on a damn internet message board.

[leemajors]

props for use of nozzle.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I will give you this OldDirtMcGirt, you seem more knowledgeable than your brethren

[smeagol]

If you put our sixth guy (Barbosa) on Utah, he'd be their third best player. That's the talent discrepancy right there.

Barbosa played like against the Spurs. He is a good player, but if he is well defended, he gets frustrated and sucks donkey's ass.

Manu should've been the 6th man of the year.

[BlackFlagg]

What the has your team ever done worth noting? They are nowhere near the level of the top 3 teams in the legaue, being the Suns, Spurs and Mavs.

Well, they advanced to the last series, with no whining, bad sportsmanship or bleating excuses.

[Strike]

Stockton is in no way much much better. How many MVP's does he have again? He's better, but not all that much as you say.

Isn't Stockton the all time leader in assists and steals? Didn't he make the finals twice? I'm sorry, how is Nash better? Two MVP trophies? What else?

[UV Ray]

Ahh . . the vilage idiot makes his appearence to further degrade this thread

BTW, your village called and said that you might want to edit your post. You misspelled village and appearance.

[smeagol]

BTW, your village called and said that you might want to edit your post. You misspelled village and appearance.

English is not my first language.

What's your excuse for your 335 re ed posts?

[Corn on the Colb]

You got me. The Jazz 10 and 11 guys are better than the Sun's 10 and 11 guys. Considering we only run eight deep (which was never a problem until the suspensions) that's all that really matters. Guys like Jalen Rose and Marcus Banks who start on other teams don't see a lick of playing time over here. If you put our sixth guy (Barbosa) on Utah, he'd be their third best player. That's the talent discrepancy right there.

And once again, the Suns didn't play small ball against San Antonio. Fast break offense has proven it can win championships against
great defensive teams. If anything it's easier to win with a fast break style in this era because of the new rules that are more conduscive to offense.

I'd take the Jazz' top 8 over yours too. That doesn't change anything. I was just showing how much deeper than you we are. If you were a deep team, you wouldn't have an 8 man rotation, would you? Marcus Banks started where, the PG-less Celtics before he was a waste of space? Oh wait, no he rode the bench there, too. In Minnesota he started sporadically, not full-time. Jalen Rose hasn't been a full-time starter since Toronto before he went to NY.

And I'd rather have AK (when he's playing) and Okur than Barbosa. They've both been All-Stars. Barbosa is good, but you're overrating him. And let's face it, he's not YOUR sixth best player, either. He's just the 2nd best at his position. Don't try and shield that because he comes off the bench. Is Manu the sixth best player on the Spurs? Why is HE in the Big 3 and not Oberto? Moron.

And sure, fastbreak teams have won before, but that's sure not your case, is it? And if it's easier for them to win, then the Suns suck even more than I thought.

The fact is, fastbreak teams aren't winning championships, are they? NO! It doesn't matter if it's easier for them to do it, they still AREN'T.

[Obstructed_View]

English is not my first language.

What's your excuse for your 335 re ed posts?

Pwn3d in any language.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What the ?

And it seems to me as if it's more pathetic to act like a condescending nozzle on a damn internet message board.

Oh im sorry. Did i upset you water?

Youre the one that decided you were bored enough at wrok to try and justify your ty teams tactics against the Spurs to a Jazz fan and then degrade it into a Jazz-Suns pissing contest. Its like two losers arguing as to who gets to be the first to eat , and now youre being like the rest of the whiny Suns es .

If youre too blind to see how that is pathetic then i reserve the right to be a condesceding prick.

[Corn on the Colb]

Isn't Stockton the all time leader in assists and steals? Didn't he make the finals twice? I'm sorry, how is Nash better? Two MVP trophies? What else?

Probably those 3 straight 10+ apg seasons.

Oh wait...Stockton had 10. And he averaged under 11 only once in that span, and averaged as much as 14.5.

Nash bah-lows.

[UV Ray]

English is not my first language.

You'll need to work on finding a first language right away.

[Corn on the Colb]

Oh im sorry. Did i upset you water?

Youre the one that decided you were bored enough at wrok to try and justify your ty teams tactics against the Spurs to a Jazz fan and then degrade it into a Jazz-Suns pissing contest. Its like two losers arguing as to who gets to be the first to eat , and now youre being like the rest of the whiny Suns es .

If youre too blind to see how that is pathetic then i reserve the right to be a condesceding prick.

I consider out-advancing the Suns and losing to the best Spurs ever not to be eating , but to being better than the Suns. That's all it is.

[Reggie Miller]

You will be eating it soon enough, but course, when that time comes, you will be nowhere to be found, so enjoy the asterisk on 2 of your 4 les, thats the reason your team cannot get any national respect. You will see les very very soon from the Suns, let's see if you are man enough to eat crow then.

1. My favorite team is the Pacers. (Talk about not sniffing a le for at least another decade or so.)

2. The Spurs are almost universally respected in Indiana, becuase the Spurs play basketball, not street ball.

3. The entire "asterisk to the le" argument is incredibly illogical and petty. Who were the Spurs supposed to play? "Gee, bring back the 1992 Dream Team, because the ECF winner just isn't challenging enough." It's not the Spurs' fault that the 2003 Nets were as weak as green tea. I strongly suspect that many people will end up suggesting that the Cavaliers weren't "real" opponents before this is all over.

4. The only way that the Suns ever win a le with this configuration is if the league continues to alter the rules/rules interpretations in their favor. Period. The Suns only became a premiere [sic] team after the league outlawed perimeter defense. Anyone who cannot see the correlation does not understand NBA basketball.

[Corn on the Colb]

You'll need to work on finding a first language right away.

My first language is French.

Quit being a gobbler. Pardon my French.

[Corn on the Colb]

premiere [sic] team after the league outlawed perimeter defense. Anyone who cannot see the correlation does not understand NBA basketball.

THAT'S the only reason Nash has 2 MVP's. Bull-shiz.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I consider out-advancing the Suns and losing to the best Spurs ever not to be eating , but to being better than the Suns. That's all it is.

I understand you didnt try to turn it into a Jazz-Suns pissing match brah. The suns fans that after what is going on a month that are still trying to come to grips with losing in the semis is just sad.

[ClingingMars]

1. My favorite team is the Pacers. (Talk about not sniffing a le for at least another decade or so.)

2. The Spurs are almost universally respected in Indiana, becuase the Spurs play basketball, not street ball.

3. The entire "asterisk to the le" argument is incredibly illogical and petty. Who were the Spurs supposed to play? "Gee, bring back the 1992 Dream Team, because the ECF winner just isn't challenging enough." It's not the Spurs' fault that the 2003 Nets were as weak as green tea. I strongly suspect that many people will end up suggesting that the Cavaliers weren't "real" opponents before this is all over.

4. The only way that the Suns ever win a le with this configuration is if the league continues to alter the rules/rules interpretations in their favor. Period. The Suns only became a premiere [sic] team after the league outlawed perimeter defense. Anyone who cannot see the correlation does not understand NBA basketball.

More reasons to love Reggie Miller, other than that he's the only reason I have to watch Inside the NBA (other than Charles saying "GO FISH!")

-Mars

[MaNuMaNiAc]

My first language is French.

Quit being a gobbler. Pardon my French.

[Corn on the Colb]

I understand you didnt try to turn it into a Jazz-Suns pissing match brah. The suns fans that after what is going on a month that are still trying to come to grips with losing in the semis is just sad.

Okay. Just making sure you don't think I'm the ass goblin.

I'm just trying to help him realize his team is going downhill faster than Picabo Street.