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Nocioni plays a lot bigger than he actually is. His size won't be a problem....as a SF, or as a Small Ball PF.
LOL @ you thinking the SPurs can land a key free agent
not the Spurs way
Nocioni plays a lot bigger than he actually is. His size won't be a problem....as a SF, or as a Small Ball PF.
what was finley then?
or barry?
Yep. Nocioni isn't very athletic but he is a strong player. He mainly played PF this year with Chicago and with a lot of success. I just said that he isn't the prototypal long SF who is 6'9"/6'10".
30+ on his last legs
Barrry, again 30+ past his primr
BOTH VETS, desperate for rings
Nocioni matches up well with certain types of players that have given the Spurs problems like Bonzi and Melo. Gives the Spurs a lot of flexibility.
nocioni though is athletic enough to hang with lebron and Carmello
adding nocioni would also help in guarding Dirk.....
I'm trying not to get my hopes up on this, but he really would be a great fit. Plus people already think he's a dirty player so he'd fit right in.
Im the same way.
Its like when in 04 the spurs were thought of going after Stephen Jackson and I was jacked for it, and he ends up going to Indiana of all friggen places.
I wouldn't go so far as to say Noccioni can stop Bron or Melo much in any way...
What he can do is put up a buttload of points and rebounds on them himself.
And I don't think he's going to have much of an adjustment to the Spurs system and playing D...he had to play hard on D in Chicago as well.
The thing is...Nocioni isn't used to playing with a truly dominant big...for much of his Bulls' career...he's the been the dominant big(which says alot about the state of Chicago's bigs). He was one of the focuses of the defense in Chicago...he won't be that here. It'll be interesting to see how he plays alongside a guy that draws as much attention as Duncan.
Not to mention that playing alongside Manu and Oberto, two players who are familiar with his game and smart enough to play to his strengths, is going to help him as well(and perhaps them too).
Last edited by whottt; 07-02-2007 at 02:17 PM.
nacioni is just a better version of najera with a shooting hand.....
i still prefer the mexican though.....
tacos anyone?
He can guard them wayyyy better than Finley.I wouldn't go so far as to say Noccioni can stop Bron or Melo much in any way...
He has the muscle and just enough athleticism to hang with Lebron and the fellow like them.
I don't think he can defend them much TPark...if he was as good as you think he is...Chicago wouldn't be willing to lose him.
He's a good offensive player and plays hard on D, better on D than he gets credit for...but he's not any kind of a LeBron or Melo stopper. In no way....
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The reason why the bulls might lose noci only because of financial reasons. Wallace and hinrich already make 10+ mil. and Gordan and Deng are due for contract extensions this year. So if the bulls could afford him they would gladly re-sign him
Nah...the main reason they are willing to let him go is that they have tremendous depth at the SF position and actually had some chemistry issues over the lack of PT. Tyrus, Deng, Kryhapa...If Nocioni was more talented than Deng and Thomas(in this case on D)...the Bulls wouldn't be willing to let him go.
Their need is a post scoring big, they've got SF, so they are willing to part ways with Nocioni to fill that need...and still end up keeping their most talented SFs.
If the Spurs do this trade...they(Bulls) are probably going to be taking salary back...so the Bulls won't be saving much payroll.
I'd be thrilled if the Bulls were willing to trade Tyrus Thomas or Deng for Scola...there's a resason they aren't willing to do that.
Long term the contracts going along with scola (either barry,beno, or butler) would be significantly cheaper due to probably only scola having more than 1-2 yrs left on contract
Barry + Scola + Udrih + 2008 1st Rd Pick
for
Nocioni + Duhon
I'm still going to say that the main reason they are willing to S&T Nocioni for a scoring big is because they like Deng and Thomas better, don't have enough minutes to go around for their SFs, and need a scoring big. I don't think the length of contract has anything to do with it...
If Nocioni only signed a 2 year deal...I think the Bulls would still be willing to trade him for Scola.
It doesn't take Isiah Thomas to see the Bulls have some nice SF types in Thomas, Deng and(as a bench player) Crapa....and no post scoring big.
Duhon sucks...
A little question :
What contract do you think Nocioni will get this summer ?
$35M/5 years seems fair to me.
I like 5 years for 30 mil better...I definitely don't think the Spurs will go much beyond that.
He's probably not going to get as much as he could as a normal FA because he doesn't have much leverage. The teams that want him the most don't have more than the MLE to offer without S&T.
Give him whatever the damn agent wants.
Do whatever the it takes.
Get Nocioni in silver and black.
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