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Luis Scola, Melvin Ely (sign and trade), Brent Barry (for salary matching purposes) and a picks (Spurs and Raptors 2008 second rounders?) for Andres Nocioni?
Make it happen.
What will Bulls do with Noc?
Exploring trade options for forward seems to make sense
By Mike McGraw
Bulls first-round draft pick Joakim Noah didn’t make it to Chicago in time for Friday’s introductory news conference. The event was rescheduled for Monday and should also include second-round picks Aaron Gray and JamesOn Curry.
That means Noah and the second-rounders won’t be holding up their Bulls jerseys for the cameras until after the NBA’s free-agent negotiating period begins Sunday.
The Bulls’ primary questions in free agency won’t revolve around which players they might sign. It’s a thin group, particularly among big men. The biggest issues are what happens to two of their own free agents, Andres Nocioni and P.J. Brown.
Nocioni is restricted, which means the Bulls can match any offer he receives from another team. The Bulls won’t allow the Argentina native to walk away with nothing in return, but they do face a tough decision this summer.
As popular as Nocioni has been among fans, teammates and coaches, he doesn’t fit in particularly well on the Bulls’ roster. If Nocioni returns, he’ll either have to play power forward at 6-feet-7 or back up small forward Luol Deng.
Factor in that Nocioni will be seeking a contract in the neighborhood of $6 million to $7 million per season, and it appears obvious the Bulls will at least explore sign-and-trade opportunities.
“I think it’s really clear that the city, management and the coaching staff love this guy,” said Mike Cound, one of Nocioni’s representatives. “And he loves them. He likes everything about the Bulls, but he’s a realist.”
That means Nocioni is ready for anything this summer, though he’d have to agree to a new destination. He’s resting at his ranch in Argentina, wearing a walking boot to alleviate a persistent bout of plantar fasciitis in his right foot.
Cound is hoping to resolve Nocioni’s status quickly, but that may not be possible. The Bulls addressed their need for height by drafting Noah and would like to add an interior scorer.
That’s easier said than done.
General manager John Paxson figures to monitor Kevin Garnett’s status this summer. Minnesota seemed intent on trading Garnett before the draft and never succeeded. Memphis forward Pau Gasol is a potential target if the asking price is less than it was in February.
Another player to consider is 6-9 Argentinean power forward Luis Scola, who averaged 17 points and 7.2 rebounds in the Spanish league for Tau Ceramica. San Antonio has held Scola’s rights since 2002, and he has a sizable buyout in his Spanish contract. But so did Nocioni.
Scola, 27, is a potential inside scorer and has been billed by some as the best player not currently in the NBA. Theoretically, the Spurs could sign Scola and send him to the Bulls in a sign-and-trade for Nocioni. Cound represents both players.
Brown is another sign-and-trade candidate, though the Bulls wouldn’t mind having the 37-year-old power forward return for another season. Brown’s agent, Mark Bartelstein, said Brown is out of the country on vacation and would not make any decisions until he returns next week.
The Bulls may pursue Philadelphia free agent Joe Smith as a veteran presence if Brown does not return. The other prominent big men on the market are San Antonio’s Melvin Ely, New Jersey’s Mikki Moore and the Lakers’ Chris Mihm, who missed all of last season with an injury.
Cleveland’s Anderson Varejao, Orlando’s Darko Milicic and San Antonio’s Fabricio Oberto are restricted free agents.
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/story.asp?id=327621
Luis Scola, Melvin Ely (sign and trade), Brent Barry (for salary matching purposes) and a picks (Spurs and Raptors 2008 second rounders?) for Andres Nocioni?
Make it happen.
A post-Bowen swingman rotation of Ginobili, Nocioni, White and Williams would cover just about ever possible attribute. You'd have the heart (Ginobili), the toughness (Nocioni), the athlete (White) and the playmaker (Williams).
yeah.Luis Scola, Melvin Ely (sign and trade), Brent Barry (for salary matching purposes) and a picks (Spurs and Raptors 2008 second rounders?) for Andres Nocioni?
Make it happen.
Mcgraw is Bulls' Ludden. If he speaks about Scola, it likely means that Bulls are interested in him.
I can see too Bulls including Duhon to match salaries in a Nocioni S&T.
Damn, Pop and R.C. got to make this happen!
I've been makin' a listLuis Scola, Melvin Ely (sign and trade), Brent Barry (for salary matching purposes) and a picks (Spurs and Raptors 2008 second rounders?) for Andres Nocioni?
Make it happen.
And checkin' it twice
And Duhon too
Would really be nice
Pop is still the argentinian pampa, waiting the free agency deadline to speak with Nocioni a la 03' Rasho.He’s resting at his ranch in Argentina, wearing a walking boot to alleviate a persistent bout of plantar fasciitis in his right foot
Last edited by Bruno; 06-30-2007 at 04:35 AM.
Is that really a possibility? Does Scola still have that large buyout? I think it would only make sense, if Scola would play for the Bulls THIS year. I would really love that trade. If they could somehow get Duhon involved the Spurs are ready!
Parker/ Duhon/ Vaughn
Gino/ Finley/ White
Bowen/ Nocioni
TD/ Horry/ Bonner
Oberto/ Elson/ Butler
Looks awesome...
Outside of the big three + Bowen, I can't really think of a trade that'd be a bad one in which the Spurs got back Nocioni.
I'll drive Barry, Finley, Scola, Mahinmi, Splitter, Beno, Vaughn, Ely, Bonner, Elson, Oberto, Butler or any combination of them to the airport. I don't think Duhon is that good but if the Bulls want to throw him in, that'd be fine.
Bulls could be very interested in Splitter with Wallace aging.
I'm not a Duhon fan too. He can be one of the best backup PG in the league but he was one of the worst last year. I speak about him because bulls will likely have to add some filler because of the BYC rule and because words is that he is on the trading block.
Well, I agree. IMO he not great but is better than Vaughn/ Beno, so he would also be an upgade. He doesn't turn the ball over much and has a good shot. He is also able to knock down a 3. He is also a okay defender. I would like it.
Splitter was a nice pick but if it takes Scola, Splitter, Mahinmi and Bary for Nocioni, I probably do it.
Yeah, Duhon turned into a drunk at some point along the line. Although he'd fit the Udrih role rather well ... especially when it comes to the night club action part of the role
Ginobili + Oberto + Nocioni = Argentine Mafia
i rarely agree with you, it seems, but i love this idea. i, too, hope it happens. good stuff...
Another question is what expirings are the most interesting for Bulls :
Barry is maybe the best player available but I'm not sure they want him back after the year he spend in Chicago.
Udrih has some upside but Bulls like though players.
Butler has too some upside but do they want him after the Sweetney failure ?
They could be interested in Bonner to stretch the floor. If Spurs get Nocioni, Bonner will be less usefull for Spurs.
I don't see how White can help them.
Doing a S&T with an unrestricted free agent like Ely is quite difficult.
More like the guy who's really good (Ginobili), the guy who's pretty good (Nocioni), the guy who's decent (White), and the guy who'll suck out loud (Williams).
Relax. Everyone on earth knows Manu is by far the best of that foursome. He doesn't need to be put on a pedestal every time his name is mentioned. It's a given he's great.More like the guy who's really good (Ginobili), the guy who's pretty good (Nocioni), the guy who's decent (White), and the guy who'll suck out loud (Williams).
I thought the chances of landing Nocioni were slim to none, but if they can get him with a package of Scola, Barry, + non-TD big man that would be huge. What are the realistic chances of this actually happening given Scola's buyout and importance to Tau?
It would be awesome to see Manu (praises be upon him), Nocioni and Oberto on the Spurs!
Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out as well.
Scola - Would fit on the Bulls so well it's kinda scary, actually. Gives them a low post scorer they need. Will play next to Wallace so his short comings on defense won't be exposed as much. He actually makes a lot of sense for Chicago ... much more sense than he makes for the Spurs.
Mahinmi & Splitter - Both are pretty good prospects who would fit pretty well on Chicago. The Bulls might ask for one of them to be included in a package.
Barry - Yeah, he had a bad stint there in '99 ... but then again, the coaches, GM and all the players are different. Oh and his wife is from Chicago, so at least she'd be cool with it I assume.
Ely - Could be used as filler if needed. Bulls might want him because the on thing Ely can do is post up.
Udrih, White & Butler - Decent prospects with one year contracts. If the Bulls want one, they'd be worth losing for Nocioni.
Bonner - I think he could co-exist with Nocioni once Horry retires. That said, if the Bulls want him they can have him.
Elson - He might be a dark horse candidate to be wanted by the Bulls. He fits their up and down game and they don't have much at center. Plus his contract is an expiring one. With the pick of Splitter, Elson became more expendable than he was before the draft for the Spurs.
Vaughn, Horry, Oberto, Finley - Either too old, too slow or too unathletic for what the Bulls need. I doubt they'd want any of them.
Parker/Duhon/Vaughn
Ginobili/Finley/White
Bowen/Nocioni/Williams
Duncan/Horry/Bonner
Oberto/Butler/Elson
I like that depth chart rather a lot, and it would give us a youngster at each position too - not that they will all pan out, but it injects some youth.
As for Duhon, maybe a trip to a team like ours will re-focus him on basketball and making the most out of his career before it evaporates.
Make it so!
That wasn't my point. I'd have let your post go if it wasn't the part about Williams being a "playmaker." As you might have guessed, I'm highly dubious that he'll ever amount to anything. I know at #33 it really doesn't matter either way, but I don't get why the Spurs would pick a wing player whose weaknesses are 1) 3 point shooting 2) defense 3) team first at ude.
How exactly does that qualify him to be a Spur? Sounds like the Nuggets shoulda taken him with one of their non-existent picks. We could do a sign and trade for Steve Blake and have him be our backup PG.
why dont we go for Herman and Delfino also that would be the ultimate Argie Mafia...by the way j/k
absolutly agree on this. the problem? Bulls need a player, who delivers right from the start. Scola is expirienced, but they don't know, if he will be able to make the transistion to NBA quickly enough.
don't agree on this. Splitter is almost identical to Noah, but Noah is the more talented player. Ian is very similar to Tyrus Thomas, who has much more upside. so both are of a minor interst for the Bulls IMO.
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