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Jelly - you are truly an idiot.
You have no clue what his situation is. He could be disabled. He could be the husband or father or grandfather of someone that is disabled and was unable to move them.
I realize all of this is under Bush's watch, but really....is "baby-sitter to men who get paid a load of money to be able to handle things like this" in the scope of duties?
I know...I heard he's even responsible for my allergies, that contemptable bas . Maybe if he hadn't been on vacation he could have come up with a cure.
That's just the way it goes, I know...but I'd rather be pissed off at the er(s) who are dropping more balls than Beno in a final's series and will ultimately be the reason more people than need be are going to die from this.
Jelly - you are truly an idiot.
You have no clue what his situation is. He could be disabled. He could be the husband or father or grandfather of someone that is disabled and was unable to move them.
The chances of the aftermath of a natural disaster such as Katrina being calm and orderly were slim to none to begin with.
You know what, it. If in your world all it takes is clicking the 'make pefect now' button then go ahead and start assigning blame.
In my world I am wondering if my family members are alive or are rotting dead corpses under what used to be a house, somewhere.
So stop the ing partisanship already and contribute something for a change you ing googling experts.
I would imagine it won't be long before someone gets up in front of a camera and questions/implies that the lighter skinned folks in the SF/Northridge/Andrew disasters got help much quicker than the darker skinned ones in NO.
People like that are almost thinking that the government sent the hurricane on purpose. jeez...its not all about you! Its about everyone, shut up and lend a hand.Said she wanted hot food, warm showers, and a place to live for her and her family. Lady, look around, there's an entire city looking for the same thing.
Bunch of C130's landed at airport... 8 Chinooks are now working on sandbags at the levy. etc...
Maybe if you could do it over again you would just fly in water and food instead of all the 2-5000 people rescued by chopper so far off roofs?
I think he should have been more proactive early on, but he's not going to deserve the sheer amount of I feel he's about to take, even though he's ultimately in charge.
I think a whole lot of us are doing our part.So stop the ing partisanship already and contribute something for a change.
yeah, the note on WWL saud he is 77.. and he rarely appears in public... that maybe because he has an illness.
edit:, but I'm not agreeing that Jelly is an idiot, just with the other part.
and 2pac you are truly an asshole for calling me an idiot.
Fats Domino is someone who has quite a lot of money and could have left, regardless if he is disabled. He could have left. If he has died, that is incredibly sad. But I am sadder for those no names that had no money, no friends with money, no transportation, and no chance of getting out.
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I'm very sorry that you haven't heard anything from your family yet.....but a lot of us have done or will be doing quite a bit to contribute in one way or another.
I hope people don't take her situation and blame the authorities for it.
There are a whole lot of people who make stupid decision after stupid decision, take no responsibility for it, then get mad because the world doesn't drop everything and cater to their needs first.
So I don't put a lot of stock into what she says. I do wonder why authorities didn't figure on a whole lot of people having that at ude and fomenting unrest.
There are a lot of people who got to whatever shelter they could, and are now in danger because FEMA has its head up its ass and can't get them out, while the roving hordes menace them nearby in the floodwaters.
Nice, good to see.2:20 P.M. - Airport spokeswoman Mic e Duffourc: There have been hundreds of helicopter operations over the past 3 days as the helicopter are bringing in people that are being rescued from throughout the region to transfer to civilian and military aircraft to take them to points of safety.
Both. They were trying to get people off the roofs because they thought there was no hope of stopping the levy from flooding the city, abandoning that is the equivalent of death sentences for all those people stranded.Maybe if you could do it over again you would just fly in water and food instead of all the 2-5000 people rescued by chopper so far off roofs?
2:48 P.M. - Gov. Blanco: "Thousands" are believed to be dead. And between 200 and 300,000 people still need to be evacuated from the city. 2,400 people are still waiting to be evacuated from the Superdome.
One official said the Army Corps of Engineers are currently driving pilings, dumping sand, into the breaches in the levee. Concrete barriers will go up after the sand is laid down. They will assess the pumps, and it could take as long as one month before the water is completely drained from the city. The Army Corps is being escorted to the levees by State Police.
Blanco said 12,000 National Guard troops from various regions in the nation are being deployed to the area, bringing the total number of troops to 40,000. The Governor added that looters will be dealt with. Blanco said Baton Rouge has its own concerns with refugees, who have reportedly been causing similar trouble in the state capital.
Hospital evacuations are going well. Chalmette and Tulane Hospitals are emptied.
No casualty list reported yet.
That's call Micromanagement ... it's not good to do that..
West Wing on TV is not real btw....
Let the folks do what they do.. let Bush do his job and stay the out of the way.
There are a lot of good Americans on the way to help.....
That post proved how much of an idiot you are and that you are talking out your ass with no actual knowledge of the situation.
Fats Domino lived in the 9th Ward. No one that has money lives there. Maybe you should try to think a little before you post and maybe have a little compassion on teh people that lost everything - many even their lives.
I appreciate that. I am referring to those who would like to immediately blame the hurricane's destruction on certain politicians or political parties.
Vashner,
I am not a Bush hater and I'm not bashing the president. I was predicting - and it's a god damned good prediction as it's already happening even in conservative blogs- that Bush is going to get crucified over this. As 1369 said, it may not be his doing, but all this happened on his watch and he is the leader of this country. And this country looks ill-prepared for this disaster.
She just looked and sounded like one of those types who is destined to be on CNN calling the administration racist for not dealing with the "colored people."There are a whole lot of people who make stupid decision after stupid decision, take no responsibility for it, then get mad because the world doesn't drop everything and cater to their needs first.
Like I said, she should be thankful she's alive and on dry land. A lot of her neighbors are probably floating dead somewhere face down on their street or in their attic.
I hate ungrateful s who think the world revolves around them.
who says I don't have compassion? Go yourself 2pac.
Houston and San Antonio are going to have similar problems.The Governor added that looters will be dealt with. Blanco said Baton Rouge has its own concerns with refugees, who have reportedly been causing similar trouble in the state capital.
It's our responsibility to save those people, but New Orleans had a ridiculous crime rate, and it's not as if those people are going to become less disruptive in this situation. Texas cities are going to have a crime wave around these camps. Be ready for it.
So just be prepared for less than gracious behavior from many refugees, and violent criminal activity from a few.
The words you post show you dont have compassion, dumbass.
You have no clue what you are talking about but act like your word is ing golden, when it is really nothing more than a piece of wrapped in yellow foil.
Sadly I see the same thing happening in San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas, despite our generosityBaton Rouge has its own concerns with refugees, who have reportedly been causing similar trouble in the state capital.
Analysis: When is looting okay?
02:39 PM CDT on Thursday, September 1, 2005
Associated Press
As New Orleans has descended into chaos, desperate residents have stolen ramen noodles, loaves of bread, cases of soda -- basic survival needs in a painfully empty city. Others have taken jewelry, TVs and even guns.
The devastation left behind by Hurricane Katrina has raised difficult questions of ethics: When, if ever, is looting OK? When is it acceptable to break the law -- and what happens when law itself breaks down?
In New Orleans on Thursday, Monica Laguard sobbed almost uncontrollably as she placed items she had taken from a store's shelves into plastic garbage bags to take them to her shelter in a nearby school.
She was taking children's clothing and snack foods. She could not find water.
"I've got to get back to my children," she said. "I've got to get back to my children."
Ethicists and social psychologists said in interviews that rules of human behavior -- including respect for others' property and for social order itself -- dissolve quickly in desperate cir stances like the storm's aftermath.
"Obviously stealing things like TV sets or beer or any items that aren't crucial for survival, that's a nonstarter," said Mark Bernstein, a professor of applied ethics at Purdue University. "There would be no ethicist in the country that would think that's proper behavior."
But he quickly made an analogy: If the only pharmacy nearby were closed, and it had a drug your mother needed to stay alive, breaking into the pharmacy would be the right thing to do.
"If it's truly for survival -- and I emphasize that, really for your children or wife -- I think you have an obligation to your family that is at least as strong as the respect you have to pay other property owners," he said.
In the cauldron of lawlessness that is New Orleans, these ivory-tower hypotheticals are being played out with life-or-death consequences.
Outside a Rite-Aid pharmacy where thieves had commandeered a forklift and used it to push up the storm shutters and break the glass, a woman on a bicycle rode up Thursday and asked whether police were making arrests inside. Told no, she said, "I'm a diabetic. I need test strips. I'm down to two. I don't know if my insulin's any good. It hasn't been on ice."
Carrying toothpaste, toothbrushes and mouthwash, Earl Baker walked up to a reporter and said: "All of this is personal hygiene. I ain't getting nothing to get drunk or high with."
In the first days after New Orleans flooded, local police took a relatively relaxed at ude toward refugees stealing food, water and other necessities. The police chief and mayor said they understood people were trying to survive.
But as the looters have grown more brazen, law enforcement has begun to crack down, especially when thieves have taken guns or preyed upon innocent people with food and water.
By Thursday, National Guard, state and local police were deployed from search-and-rescue operations specifically to restore order to the city.
Jan Boxill, associate director of the Parr Center for Ethics at the University of North Carolina, draws a clear line: Looting on its face is wrong because it's stealing.
But she said New Orleans appears to have regressed into what ethicists call the state of nature -- an atmosphere without rules or infrastructure, where the needs are so great that anything goes.
"It isn't that it justifies it," she said, "but where there's no laws that can help anybody, one way or the other, obviously people need what they need to survive."
Some of the looters marauding through the city have clearly gone beyond survival needs. On New Orleans' Canal Street, dozens of looters ripped open the steel gates on clothing and jewelry stores and grabbed merchandise. At a Wal-Mart, looters brazenly filled shopping carts with microwave ovens, coolers and knife sets. Some walked out of a sporting goods store with armfuls of football jerseys.
And, most terrifyingly, looters have been breaking into stores all over New Orleans and stealing guns. New Orleans' homeland security chief said gangs of armed men are moving around the city, in some cases shooting at police.
Jonathan Haidt, a social psychologist at the University of Virginia, said some people might see widespread looting and not want to be left out -- to "feel like a sucker."
He compared it to sitting in traffic and watching people zoom past on the shoulder of the road: "We curse that person. But then another person goes by, and another, and we say, `If everyone else is doing that, I'm going to, too."'
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awesome story. covers all sides.
just had to post it.
HOUSTON (AP) - Tempers flared at the Reliant Astrodome amid rumors among newly arrived evacuees from the Superdome in New Orleans that there was no more Dome Foam available at the south concourse concession.
"They're treating us like animals!" declared Anton Jackson as he wrestled a seat cushion from the venerated stadium's lower concourse area and lobbed it at stunned Texas National Guardsmen.
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