Spurs trade ideas

[montgod]

from what I know they want to move Bogdanovic and Capela. They are also to be rumored to be interested in Ingram, but Ingram is injured. I don't really see how they could improve tbh

Yeah I'm with you. I don't see anyway they can drastically improve in the short term. The players they have made available will only provide short term or minimal level solutions and more so focused on at least getting something for them then winning more games. Still hoping some team would show some true interest in Trae and they'd move on from him, but they're being stubborn it looks like to stay in contention. If they lose their next two games, I can see them pull the trigger quickly and give in to the rebuild and seriously try to unload some of their assets.

[LeBowen]

Also, have to ask scott about his wet dream, Trey Murphy.
How much would you give up for him?

If we get a top5 pick that's not Flagg, would you call NOLA and offer it +Devin for Murphy?

[baseline bum]

spurs should absolutely stand pat. the Fox acquisition is going to really change the on-court dynamics on both ends of the court. a lot of guys who looked awkward or bad might suddenly be elevated. some guys might look worse with this fit. we should give the rest of the year to figure out how well these players gel, and then strike when the time is right in the future.

if we want to send 2-3 seconds to get a solid reserve with more than a year left on his deal, thats something id entertain

I mostly agree, but if the Suns can't get Butler and put KD on the market I wouldn't mind throwing a lowball and seeing if it gets a bite.

[montgod]

I'm actually not sure about Cam Johnson.
Don't get me wrong, a very good starter, but 2 FRPs asking price is too high.
We can't take this season's statline seriously because he's got the ultimate green light on an awful team.
In his 4 peak seasons before this one he was at 13.5ppg on 40% FG.
Good defender, but not great.
No ballhandling skills (we don't need those, but it's about his value).
Just 4rpg despite being 6'8.

For comparison, Champ averages 13ppg on 36% 3pt when he plays more than 25 minutes this season.
I'm not saying Champ is better than Cam, he's not, I'm just saying that the difference between them isn't big enough to warrant Spurs sending FRPs to acquire Cam.

Yup... these were my thoughts as well. He's limited but merely a younger version of his teammate Bogdanovic. Definitely wouldn't give up 2, much less 1, first round pick(s) for him. I think teams who are on the verge should spend for him if they feel he'll get them over the hump but not SA.

[mo7888]

Also, have to ask scott about his wet dream, Trey Murphy.
How much would you give up for him?

If we get a top5 pick that's not Flagg, would you call NOLA and offer it +Devin for Murphy?

I would..

[SpursGenius]

I'm actually not sure about Cam Johnson.
Don't get me wrong, a very good starter, but 2 FRPs asking price is too high.
We can't take this season's statline seriously because he's got the ultimate green light on an awful team.
In his 4 peak seasons before this one he was at 13.5ppg on 40% 3pt FG.
Good defender, but not great.
No ballhandling skills (we don't need those, but it's about his value).
Just 4rpg despite being 6'8.

For comparison, Champ averages 13ppg on 36% 3pt when he plays more than 25 minutes this season.
I'm not saying Champ is better than Cam, he's not, I'm just saying that the difference between them isn't big enough to warrant Spurs sending FRPs to acquire Cam.

Good point. I was suggesting one frp. Our 26 or 28 should be in the 20s. Hopefully. What’s your thought on Collins. I’m hoping Vassell and one frp gets that done. Throw in a few srps

[Manuismyhomeboy]

Idea for a solid back up big…Richaun Holmes. Upon watching old Fox highlight, Holmes stood out time and time again. Looks like he’s getting quite a few DNP’s in Washington and he’s on a reasonable contract. Why not kick the tires with a few second round picks and pair him back up with Fox for spot minutes.

[LeBowen]

Good point. I was suggesting one frp. Our 26 or 28 should be in the 20s. Hopefully. What’s your thought on Collins. I’m hoping Vassell and one frp gets that done. Throw in a few srps

I don't think we can win a playoff series this season, so I wouldn't make any moves until we see how everyone plays with Fox, maybe some of them improve.

But yeah, I want Collins or a similar PF/C hybrid for the future.
We went over it many times, John Collins for Cheap, Naz Reid or Aldama in free agency, maybe PJ Washington becomes available, who knows what are those idiots in Dallas thinking.

[SpursGenius]

spurs should absolutely stand pat. the Fox acquisition is going to really change the on-court dynamics on both ends of the court. a lot of guys who looked awkward or bad might suddenly be elevated. some guys might look worse with this fit. we should give the rest of the year to figure out how well these players gel, and then strike when the time is right in the future.

if we want to send 2-3 seconds to get a solid reserve with more than a year left on his deal, thats something id entertain

listen to this man. He knows what he is talking about.

[mo7888]

Durant officially on the block... I wonder what Phoenix is looking for? Players or picks?

[scott]

Also, have to ask scott about his wet dream, Trey Murphy.
How much would you give up for him?

If we get a top5 pick that's not Flagg, would you call NOLA and offer it +Devin for Murphy?

In a heartbeat. OMG, I'm getting chicken skin just thinking about it. Fox/Castle/Trey/Barnes/Wemby would be insane. If we could somehow upgrade Barnes into an Aldama, Naz, Jollins type... that's an insane lineup.

Trey is kind of a 95th percentile ideal fit. I'd definitely do it. Trying to fit Harper, Bailey, Edgecomb, Jak, Egor, etc into this team would be tough (but doable) if you still want to prioritize Castle. Tre Johnson might be a little easier at the 3.

I'm going to not think about this scenario anymore because I know it won't happen

[scott]

I don't think we can win a playoff series this season, so I wouldn't make any moves until we see how everyone plays with Fox, maybe some of them improve.

But yeah, I want Collins or a similar PF/C hybrid for the future.
We went over it many times, John Collins for Cheap, Naz Reid or Aldama in free agency, maybe PJ Washington becomes available, who knows what are those idiots in Dallas thinking.

I'm going to especially have my eyes on Devin. Can he adapt to a role that actively demands that he NOT fall into his ISO tendencies? I think he may actually look really good in more of an off-ball role, he should have a lot more open looks. This is a chance for him to transform into more of the 3&D guy he was drafted as. If he can do that, he'll have a place here. If he still tries to play like Second-Option-in-Training, it's going to look really bad and the team will look to move him this offseason.

[LeBowen]

In a heartbeat. OMG, I'm getting chicken skin just thinking about it. Fox/Castle/Trey/Barnes/Wemby would be insane. If we could somehow upgrade Barnes into an Aldama, Naz, Jollins type... that's an insane lineup.

Trey is kind of a 95th percentile ideal fit. I'd definitely do it. Trying to fit Harper, Bailey, Edgecomb, Jak, Egor, etc into this team would be tough (but doable) if you still want to prioritize Castle. Tre Johnson might be a little easier at the 3.

I'm going to not think about this scenario anymore because I know it won't happen

I think it might be doable if NOLA gets a top3 pick and decides having two of Flagg/Bailey/Harper would be worth it.

Durant officially on the block... I wonder what Phoenix is looking for? Players or picks?

I think they're trying to bait the Rockets into giving them a couple of good, young players and their picks back.
Rockets aren't idiots, they're waiting for Booker.

Nothing else makes sense because Suns aren't going anywhere as long as Beal is on the roster.
And he has no intention of leaving.

[mo7888]

I think it might be doable if NOLA gets a top3 pick and decides having two of Flagg/Bailey/Harper would be worth it.




I think they're trying to bait the Rockets into giving them a couple of good, young players and their picks back.
Rockets aren't idiots, they're waiting for Booker.

Nothing else makes sense because Suns aren't going anywhere as long as Beal is on the roster.
And he has no intention of leaving.

You'd think of they were fielding call on Durant that they'd be talking with Houston about Booker and just let Beal lead the tank.

[LeBowen]

You'd think of they were fielding call on Durant that they'd be talking with Houston about Booker and just let Beal lead the tank.

Ishbia will sink with the ship, no way he accepts a tank unless both Booker and KD ask out.
This is about trying to salvage some value to retool around Booker because I don't think KD will be interested in staying there after the next season and then they'd be a franchise with no picks and an awful roster that's still over the cap.
Right now they're projected to be at $221M next season with just 9 players on the roster.

[mo7888]

Ishbia will sink with the ship, no way he accepts a tank unless both Booker and KD ask out.
This is about trying to salvage some value to retool around Booker because I don't think KD will be interested in staying there after the next season and then they'd be a franchise with no picks and an awful roster that's still over the cap.
Right now they're projected to be at $221M next season with just 9 players on the roster.

Sp, realistically, what do you think they can get that will fit that objective? We can obviously do Devin + Keldon, but how do you see competing offers?

[LeBowen]

Sp, realistically, what do you think they can get that will fit that objective? We can obviously do Devin + Keldon, but how do you see competing offers?

For KD?
I think they'd want a young team with players that have legit potential to rejuvenate them. OKC, Rockets, Memphis, Orlando, you get the point.
But I don't think any of those teams would be interested in paying a high price for KD.

Just to be clear, there's no chance Spurs get KD unless he asks out this summer. Then I'd be interested.
We have 2 more years of Wemby on a rookie contract, would be able to give KD the full max for those two seasons and then offer him something more realistic for someone his age.

[thOOdee]

Durant officially on the block... I wonder what Phoenix is looking for? Players or picks?

It's clear the spurs have now started to press on the gas. This is a signal to wemby that they're pushing forward, signaling they know his time is valuable, and winning needs to start now. I would have laughed at the idea of durant a couple of days ago, but now i don't know.

Optically I think it makes the best sense for durant and the spurs. Wemby gets his "robinson" for the next couple of years, and honestly feel a chip in SA gives Durant the best shot at legitimizing his name as a real champ. Plus a homecoming of sorts near austin. I wouldn't give the suns too much, but would be all for it for the right price and if durant was on board.

[J_Paco]

Finding a cheap, serviceable big needs to be the next move.

Not sure how he'd do in an increased role with higher team and player expectations, but Duop Reath on Portland has some intriguing tools.

Either him, someone similar or using the available roster slot to audition big men is likely needed or in the cards.

[mo7888]

For KD?
I think they'd want a young team with players that have legit potential to rejuvenate them. OKC, Rockets, Memphis, Orlando, you get the point.
But I don't think any of those teams would be interested in paying a high price for KD.

Just to be clear, there's no chance Spurs get KD unless he asks out this summer. Then I'd be interested.
We have 2 more years of Wemby on a rookie contract, would be able to give KD the full max for those two seasons and then offer him something more realistic for someone his age.

I just dont see a team giving Phoenix what they want for KD unless they decide to re-boot. That puts them in an awkward situation that almost guarantees he'll want out since they are shopping him. I guess they could trade him for Butler straight up if they wanted to stay in cap , but that doesn't really help them.

[baseline bum]

I don't think the Rockets are giving Phoenix their future back without getting Booker in return, so I expect the offers Phoenix gets for Durant to be so piss-poor they just say it and hold onto him. But I would definitely be getting my low ball offer in if I'm BWright just in case they come to their senses and trade Booker to the Rockets.

[BacktoBasics]

I’m not giving assets that will shape our long term future for 2 years of KD. We’re not making moves that speak to trying get one ring in at all costs. We’re trying to build a long term wining team. Which is why I think we were adamant about keeping the ATL picks and ours this year.

[mo7888]

I don't think the Rockets are giving Phoenix their future back without getting Booker in return, so I expect the offers Phoenix gets for Durant to be so piss-poor they just say it and hold onto him. But I would definitely be getting my low ball offer in if I'm BWright just in case they come to their senses and trade Booker to the Rockets.

Yup. I'd have it on rhe table now just incase. Wouldn't expect it, but wouldn’t wanna miss it if it coes around either.

[mo7888]

I’m not giving assets that will shape our long term future for 2 years of KD. We’re not making moves that speak to trying get one ring in at all costs. We’re trying to build a long term wining team. Which is why I think we were adamant about keeping the ATL picks and ours this year.

Nobody is talking about Atlanta picks for KD

[baseline bum]

I’m not giving assets that will shape our long term future for 2 years of KD. We’re not making moves that speak to trying get one ring in at all costs. We’re trying to build a long term wining team. Which is why I think we were adamant about keeping the ATL picks and ours this year.

I'm talking about maybe Vassell and Keldon plus a pick. Definitely not a 25, 26, and maybe not even the 30. I wanna loot the corpse of the Sons.