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  1. #276
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    And I'm talking about 2004 when the Lakers had Shaq, Kobe, Payton, and Malone..they were the more stacked team by a longshot, and lost....it takes LEADERSHIP!! Something Tim has that KG never will have.
    Are you ing kidding me? What about 00-02, If I recall correctly Duncan didnt win any les during that span, did that mean he didnt have any leadership? Ya so what Lakers team was stacked, dont you remember the Finals? Malone was injured.....

  2. #277
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    LOL Tacker, you stupid , still going after your KG's stats > Duncan's numbers garbage blew up in your face.

  3. #278
    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
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    Are you ing kidding me? What about 00-02, If I recall correctly Duncan didnt win any les during that span, did that mean he didnt have any leadership? Ya so what Lakers team was stacked, dont you remember the Finals? Malone was injured.....
    Tacker...you can't win the le every damn year...we're talking about MVP here...you keep changing the subjects. You said...and I quote..."All you have to do to win MVP is be the best player on the best team and you'll win MVP." That's crap. And it's like you said..the Lakers were stacked 2000-2002..no one was going to beat them in that time...but SA was right there every time...you're an idiot...no one in this room believes otherwise...check the poll...you're losing...lol

  4. #279
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    On twitter today Shaq weighed in on the best power forward debate.


    I'm a go wit a two way tie wit barkley and malone

    Not saying I agree just throwing it out there.

  5. #280
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    The only reason he has won those rings was because he got MASSIVE support. He had one of the greatest Centers in history by his side in 99 and 03, Had 3 allstars in 05 and and in 07.

    Championship wise (media wise) Duncan would be considered one of the top 10 of all time only because of his rings and he was the best player on the team when they won those rings. Obviously no credit is given to teammates.

    Statistical wise Tim Duncan is nothing but a Soft Kevin Garnet TYpe....

    Discuss.....

    Discuss??? OK, Up yours, A'hole!

    That is maybe the dumbest post/thread ever made on SpursTalk.com!!! Were you born this way???? There is a photo of you in Webster's under....yep, you guessed it!

    This thread FAILS!!!

  6. #281
    I'm Spurtacus Spurtacus's Avatar
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    You have to go by stats if you want to compare 2 players. You cant go by mvps and les because those are all TEAM BASED not INDIVIDUAL BASED.
    How do you live with yourself? Honestly.

  7. #282
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    Im not talking about the the 90's Bulls with MJ im talking about that specific 94 Team which Pippen led to a game 7 Second Round loss to the eventual finalists Knicks....
    werent you like 5 ing years old back then?????? bet you were still pooping in your pants and drinking from a sippy cup watching barney. have you even seen tim play?

  8. #283
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    Danny White has better stats than Roger Staubach too, but nobody in their right mind thinks White was a better QB than Staubach.

    Tim Duncan is a team player, a leader, a champion, he has the intangibles that cannot be measured by mere statistics....and he's been remarkably consistent for over a decade. Four championships with a different supporting cast each year says a lot about the man.

    We are so lucky to see this player on our own team perform at such an incredible level for so long.

    Duncan is the greatest !!!
    Last edited by dav4463; 06-23-2009 at 05:20 AM.

  9. #284
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    Karl Malone played for 19 years, I doubt Duncan will maintain those stats through out an 18 year career. Also you are missing other important stats.

    TD (12 year career)
    Points - 21.4
    Rebounds - 11.7
    Blocks - 2.4
    Assists 3.2
    Steals 0.8
    FG% .507

    Malone (18 year career)
    Points - 25
    Rebounds - 10.1
    Blocks - .8
    Assists 3.6
    Steals 1.4
    FG% .516
    You forgot to mention turnovers and that Malone played in a high octane offense. Malone = prone to turnovers

  10. #285
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    You forgot to mention turnovers and that Malone played in a high octane offense. Malone = prone to turnovers

    How about defense? Duncan is a great one on one defender as well as being one of the best help defenders of all time.

    Malone was not a great defensive player.

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    Basketball is a team game.

    If the Lakers win the championship...

    I'll leave this forum for life.

    I am doing this to prove to everyone how much of a non-factor the Lakers are in the playoffs. They haven't accomplished anything. They just want to come out, shoot some hoops, and BS their way to everything. Not going to get it done in the Finals. Orlando will win the championship. There are no All-Stars other than Kobe on this Laker team. Not an intimidating lineup. Just a bunch of a jump shooters who score off Kobe double teams.
    Pussy...

  12. #287
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    KG stats were always better than Duncan til he moved to Celtics where he had to share with Allen and Pierce.....
    So that makes Duncan better, because all of his career he had to share with greats like David Robinson, Sean Elliott, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili. If Duncan didn't have to share with those guys his stats would be through the roof.

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    Duncan can't bring his team to playoff contention without Ginobili.............Duncan can't get passed the first round without Ginobili .............Interesting.

    I rest my case.

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    Duncan can't bring his team to playoff contention without Ginobili.............Duncan can't get passed the first round without Ginobili .............Interesting.

    I rest my case.
    Took KG how many years to get to the finals?

    Tim did it in his second year so you're a fail.

  16. #291
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    Tim has brought more rings to his teammates than Michael Jordan.

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    Heh heh whoa! BEANER LOL@MavsFan's Avatar
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    The only reason he has won those rings was because he got MASSIVE support. He had one of the greatest Centers in history by his side in 99 and 03, Had 3 allstars in 05 and and in 07.

    Championship wise (media wise) Duncan would be considered one of the top 10 of all time only because of his rings and he was the best player on the team when they won those rings. Obviously no credit is given to teammates.

    Statistical wise Tim Duncan is nothing but a Soft Kevin Garnet TYpe....

    Discuss.....
    Why discuss? Like MJ didn't....every team that wins it all doesn't have just ONE player that does everything....ask King Nothing.

  18. #293
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    Tim has brought more rings to his teammates than Michael Jordan.
    Since when? Please enlighten me.

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    Duncan can't bring his team to playoff contention without Ginobili.............Duncan can't get passed the first round without Ginobili .............Interesting.

    I rest my case.
    MJ couldn't do it w/o Pippen, Pippen couldn't do it w/o MJ...I rest MY case. You can't be serious, dude. I expect that kind of talk from Mavs fan, but not a Bulls fan.

  20. #295
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    Tacker,


    Why did you come back ?

  21. #296
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    i think duncan is overrated, always have. he has so much help, yet he never gets the same "couldnt do it without X player" argument like kobe.

    but i dont bother saying anything because spurs fans are re ed about tim duncan like rockets fans are about yao ming... even though yao ming sucks balls. note: im not saying yao is as good as duncan, im just comparing how blinded fans are about their respective franchise players.

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    i think duncan is overrated, always have. he has so much help, yet he never gets the same "couldnt do it without X player" argument like kobe.

    but i dont bother saying anything because spurs fans are re ed about tim duncan like rockets fans are about yao ming... even though yao ming sucks balls. note: im not saying yao is as good as duncan, im just comparing how blinded fans are about their respective franchise players.
    Ummm... what ?

  23. #298
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    Statistical wise KG > Duncan yet I dont see KG get the praise Duncan gets.
    ORLY?
    tim averages more points, rebounds, blocks, shoots a higher percentage and just about everything else imaginable for his career. all done in less minutes than garnett.

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    ORLY?
    tim averages more points, rebounds, blocks, shoots a higher percentage and just about everything else imaginable for his career. all done in less minutes than garnett.
    Don't bother

    Tacker's knowledge is limited to: " OMG, Jordan ownz, goat, lulz, spurs old and boring cheaturz"

  25. #300
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    i think duncan is overrated, always have. he has so much help, yet he never gets the same "couldnt do it without X player" argument like kobe.

    but i dont bother saying anything because spurs fans are re ed about tim duncan like rockets fans are about yao ming... even though yao ming sucks balls. note: im not saying yao is as good as duncan, im just comparing how blinded fans are about their respective franchise players.
    You didn't watch the NBA before 2005, did you?

    Oh, and also, Duncan is the only player to win more than one championship with a totally different cast on the same team other than Bill Russell, so that logic doesn't apply.

    Right now, Kobe can't win without Fisher.

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