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  1. #276
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    By all means, bash trolls then, but with me discuss things.
    Unless you are a troll.
    Are you?
    I'm not.
    You are though....by the definition that you've decided is true, you're absolutely a troll. You start threads about other posters, you're nearly always in the middle of it when there is a multi page argument about nothing, you're constantly baiting people that aren't even in the thread you're posting in, and on and on and on and on.

    You're even at the same level of humor as the very people you find unoriginal and lacking creativity. The fact that you only post under one name (allegedly) doesn't help your case either because you're ALWAYS doing what you profess to hate.

    Practice what you preach, step away from the Internet and stop trolling...then I will stop "discussing" anything with you and you won't have to deal with me ever again....

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    I was, and with Random too.
    I alwaysd give the benefit of the doubt until you prove yourself to be a troll.
    You seem to have a problem discussing things with decent people.
    How long have you had this problem?
    And does it stem from a basic insecurity complex, or something much deeper than that?
    See, you're not even very good at it

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    You are though....by the definition that you've decided is true, you're absolutely a troll. You start threads about other posters, you're nearly always in the middle of it when there is a multi page argument about nothing, you're constantly baiting people that aren't even in the thread you're posting in, and on and on and on and on.

    You're even at the same level of humor as the very people you find unoriginal and lacking creativity. The fact that you only post under one name (allegedly) doesn't help your case either because you're ALWAYS doing what you profess to hate.

    Practice what you preach, step away from the Internet and stop trolling...then I will stop "discussing" anything with you and you won't have to deal with me ever again....
    You first.
    I plan to keep posting upstairs because I love the Spurs and basketball.
    Down here I have curtailed my bashing, not trolling, quite significantly.
    I even started a thread that I only posted if at the very beginning and allowing the trolls to have at themselves.
    The other subjects I am always willing to have a good discussion withdecent posters as long as they give me the same courtesy.
    At the very beginning of this discussion with Random I explained to him that I COULD not debate this subject, but that I could discuss it.
    What is your problem with that?

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    See, you're not even very good at it
    You come across as trolling.
    Do you not understand this, or are you just dense?

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    You fail to realize that I gave you and Random the benefit of the doubt. I have read many of your trolling posts when that is your childish game, but I still tried to give you both the benefit of the doubt in the interest of civility so we could have a discussion.
    The areas that became a debate was over semantics, or didn't you get that? Random did.
    And I was genuinely still trying to discuss it with you even after it became obvious that all you seemed to really want to do was troll me.
    So who was being the adult here?

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    You fail to realize that I gave you and Random the benefit of the doubt. I have read many of your trolling posts when that is your childish game, but I still tried to give you both the benefit of the doubt in the interest of civility so we could have a discussion.
    The areas that became a debate was over semantics, or didn't you get that? Random did.
    And I was genuinely still trying to discuss it with you even after it became obvious that all you seemed to really want to do was troll me.
    So who was being the adult here?
    God you're dumb...go look and see who pointed out that you guys were having an argument over semantics.

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    By all means, bash trolls then, but with me discuss things.
    Unless you are a troll.
    Are you?
    I'm not.
    Yes you are.

    You're also a huge liar.

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    Yes you are.

    You're also a huge liar.
    You have absolutely no room to talk.
    You are going away the biggest liar, and fool, on ST
    And you calling me a liar is the hugest vote of confidence that I tell the truth, on here.

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    God you're dumb...go look and see who pointed out that you guys were having an argument over semantics.
    I already explained this to you twice but you are just too dense and contrary to get it.
    I explained that the "debate" or argument that our discussion gravitated into centered around the "paradox" issue.
    Are you really this dense, or is it that you have a problem with understanding things?
    I stand amazed at your level of ignorance. It rivals blake in that regard, and I wouldn't be proud of that if I were you.

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    And you calling me a liar is the hugest vote of confidence that I tell the truth, on here.
    you have no clue just how re ed this logic is, do you.

    You literally are a re .

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    you have no clue just how re ed this logic is, do you.

    You literally are a re .
    No surprise that the ST village idiot troll does not understand.
    That is why everyone on here always has to dumb things down for you.
    Yes, you are still clueless.
    Nothing to see here folks.
    Move along.

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    On the contrary, I agree with you both partially.

    johnsmith, it has no weight as you say in a debate. That is why I was not arguing or debating, rather I was discussing. I thought I made this pretty clear. I will refrain on insulting your intelligence on this, but if you had been following the "discussion" then you would have seen I made this point many times.

    Random, I fully understand where you are coming from because once upon a time I was an atheist too in what I believed and disbelieved. And this is why I am more than willing to "discuss" it with you.
    But you keep wanting me to define something that I feel is impossible to define. And then you falsely accuse me of not wanting to define it. I made that issue pretty damn clear many times, that I CANNOT define something that I consider undefinable. How many times do I have to make this clear to you before it sinks in?
    Not only I CANNOT define God, but I "do not think anyone" can adequately define God.
    Do I need to keep repeating this until you get what I am saying?
    You seem to think I can, even after I have told you already many times that I cannot. To me, that is what sounds very unreasonable.
    You seem to want to make up your own reasons for "why" I cannot, rather than accept the truth which is that I do not have the ability.
    And then you want to make up your own reasons for why I do not have the ability.
    I am always willing to discuss this topic with you or anyone else, but I think it is impossible to have a debate about it.
    Discussions involve "opinions", whereas "debates" involve "facts". Where our "discussion" gravitated into a "debate" was over the rationality or irrationality of the "paradox" of it.
    Do you understand?
    Now, having explained this, if you continue to make up your own reasons for what I am saying and fail to accept or understand what I am saying after I have told you, then I have no recourse but to conclude that you really do not want to discuss this, but rather you want someone to debate a nebulous subject with.
    If that is the case and you cannot accept what I tell you, then you are merely wasting both of our time.
    You have a perfectly useless concept of God. Defining something as "undefinable" is just silly.

    You are welcome to be as silly as you want I guess, but don't represent such things as rational. They aren't. I would reject that as literally being delusional.

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    You have a perfectly useless concept of God. Defining something as "undefinable" is just silly.

    You are welcome to be as silly as you want I guess, but don't represent such things as rational. They aren't. I would reject that as literally being delusional.
    uh oh. xmas gunna call you a troll now.

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    uh oh. xmas gunna call you a troll now.
    Not something I woudl take seriously.

    Quite frankly, I am a bit more worried about Ukraine and South China sea.

    The killing of 23 americans by Russian backed sepratists, using Russian surface to air missiles is a -storm that worries the out of me.

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    Not something I woudl take seriously.

    Quite frankly, I am a bit more worried about Ukraine and South China sea.

    The killing of 23 americans by Russian backed sepratists, using Russian surface to air missiles is a -storm that worries the out of me.
    sounds like a Tom Clancy book

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    You have a perfectly useless concept of God. Defining something as "undefinable" is just silly.

    You are welcome to be as silly as you want I guess, but don't represent such things as rational. They aren't. I would reject that as literally being delusional.

    You are always welcome to your opinion.
    Just remember, it is merely an "opinion". And it has absolutely nothing to do with "rationality", no, it is simply an opinion, no more, and no less.



    uh oh. xmas gunna call you a troll now.

    More lies as per usual.
    You're probably going to lie and say that I did not offer you a truce next. and you refused, but the proof is still in the threads, no matter how you try to twist it and distort it.
    Your loss. You have only yourself to blame. Go ahead and lie about that too.

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    You are always welcome to your opinion.
    Just remember, it is merely an "opinion". And it has absolutely nothing to do with "rationality", no, it is simply an opinion, no more, and no less.






    More lies as per usual.
    You're probably going to lie and say that I did not offer you a truce next. and you refused, but the proof is still in the threads, no matter how you try to twist it and distort it.
    Your loss. You have only yourself to blame. Go ahead and lie about that too.
    de·lu·sion·al [dih-loo-zhuh-nl] Show IPA
    adjective
    1.
    having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions: Senators who think they will get agreement on a comprehensive tax bill are delusional.
    2.
    Psychiatry. maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts, usually as a result of mental illness: He was so delusional and paranoid that he thought everybody was conspiring against him.
    If you believe something is true, when it is in fact false, that is the definition of delusional.

    You have no evidence to believe X is true, or to independently verify it.

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    If you believe something is true, when it is in fact false, that is the definition of delusional.

    You have no evidence to believe X is true, or to independently verify it.
    I think you had best go and recheck your definition of "delusional" again because it isn't even close.
    Maybe in the "Dictionary of RandomGuy" it is, but that is all.

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    I think you had best go and recheck your definition of "delusional" again because it isn't even close.
    Maybe in the "Dictionary of RandomGuy" it is, but that is all.
    Feel free to present your alternative.

    Define delusional.

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    LOL i believe in evolution i do. but man,when i see this, you might as well put Santa Clause as the last man on here

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    Feel free to present your alternative.

    Define delusional.
    How many dictionary definitions do you want? Will one suffice? Or do I need to quote a bunch?

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    How many dictionary definitions do you want? Will one suffice? Or do I need to quote a bunch?
    Just one you will accept. If you don't like my reality-based definition, feel free to subs ute one of your own. I"m good.

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    Believing in something without evidence is irrational.
    I agree
    [anti-evolution trolling]
    Seriously, you are too stupid to understand the theory you are criticizing.

    If you weren't so dumb, and or lazy, and would even bother learning the theory you are trying to troll, I might bother.

    I will take it all back, and apologize, if you can explain why phylogeny, using concepts of evolution, so closely predicts the fossil record and what is found when we examine genetic lineages?

    If you can't, GTFO.

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    Okay, I took the first one I found from the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

    de·lu·sion
    noun \di-ˈlü-zhən, dē-\

    : a belief that is not true : a false idea

    : a false idea or belief that is caused by mental illness
    Full Definition of DELUSION
    1
    : the act of deluding : the state of being deluded
    2
    a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated
    b : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs

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    If you believe something is true, when it is in fact false, that is the definition of delusional.
    [No that is not right.]
    [Then give me one you think is right.]

    Okay, I took the first one I found from the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

    de·lu·sion
    noun \di-ˈlü-zhən, dē-\

    : a belief that is not true : a false idea
    okaaaaay.

    Let's work with that then. (rolls eyes)

    So how do you know something is true? What are your criteria? What is your standard of evidence?

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