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No, it would be worse. A hurricane has counter clock wise winds so if it would hit west of NO the wind would come from the south (on shore) and if it were to hit to the east it would be a North wind (off shore).
As for part 2 of your question, there is always a chance of a sudtle change in direction right up until these storms are dead. We don't understand them perfectly by any means, and it could wobble or do things of that nature.
But to tell you the truth, this is going to hit New Orleans unless an act of God takes place. There is no reason meterologicaly at this time to anticipate anything more than a slight deviation to either side of NO, but I woudln't even count on that.
In terms of strength, I would rate this as the strongest storm every to come ashore in the United States for several reasons:
The preasure of the storm is lower than both Camille and Andrew. Camille had stronger winds, but that is due to its more compact size. The entire amount of energy being expended by this storm is greater than what Camille expended. In other words, just because the winds are a little bit weaker it doesn't really matter because the area they cover is MUCH larger than Camille or Andrew.
But, this storm is hitting at the worst place it possibly could. I basically don't see how this could be anything but the worst natural disaster in the history of the US.
So, to me, Katrina is the strongest storm ever to make landfall on US soil. But it really is an academic debate and nothing more. No one wants to be around any storm of anything near this size.
No, it would be worse. A hurricane has counter clock wise winds so if it would hit west of NO the wind would come from the south (on shore) and if it were to hit to the east it would be a North wind (off shore).
I know I posted this earlier, but this is the feed from the New Orleans CBS affiliate in case anyone wants it.
http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/vid...props=livenoad
There is no good place for this to hit, east or west. They are screwed either way from one thing or another.
Because NO has as north shore, hitting west would provide it relief from some of the storm surge due to the circulation. But they would also get a longer period of stronger winds, and the storm surge would probably be enough to overwhelm the system either way.
"Off shore"? You mean "other shore."
If it passes slightly to the east of NO, you will see the worst flooding scenario, but relief from winds. At first, winds will push water into Lake Ponchawhatever, then as the storm passed and the winds turned, they would push water directly into NO.
Basically, would you rather be pushed inland by a 20-foot storm surge (Katrina hits west), or would you rather be pushed out to sea by 160 mph winds (Katrina hits east)?A hurricane has counter clock wise winds so if it would hit west of NO the wind would come from the south (on shore) and if it were to hit to the east it would be a North wind (off shore).
Well now I know where I'm NOT sending a college application.
From what I saw it would be best to get hit with the East side, yes it's the strongest winds but it may keep the lake from being pushed over and that is the weaker levy.
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The best case scenario is Katrina hits west. They are better off dealing with winds and less flooding. The water is what is really going to screw up the city.
two morons standing on a jettie.
One holding a surfboard.
If I was the coast guard, id say, you go in, your fault, we aint savin ya.
And this thing is tracking slightly to the east, right?
I'm beyond the point of sympathy for these idiots that are trying to ride out the storm. Not the ones who can't leave for whatever reason, but the ones who WON'T leave.
Dude, I do not care if you built your restaurant by hand and have been shucking oysters just to feed your family for the past 20 years. It is your LIFE you are worried about, not some stupid principle. Git' yer ass out NOW. Katrina is not going to give two s about whether you are holding down the fort or whether you are 500 miles away. Your restaurant/shop/house/shanty is getting trashed either way.
linkA direct hit from a powerful hurricane on New Orleans could furnish perhaps the largest natural catastrophe ever experienced on U.S. soil. Some estimates suggest that well over 25,000 non-evacuees could die. Many more would be stranded, and successful evacuees would have nowhere to return to. Damages could run as high as $100 billion. In the wake of such a tragedy, some may even question the wisdom of trying to rebuild the city at all.
I can't think about levees without thinking about :
A M E R I C A N P I E
A long, long time ago... I can still remember how
That music used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance,
That I could make those people dance,
And maybe they'd be happy for a while.
But February made me shiver,
With every paper I'd deliver,
Bad news on the doorstep...
I couldn't take one more step.
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride
But something touched me deep inside,
The day the music died.
Soo..Bye, bye miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye?
Singing this will be the day that I die
this will be the day that I die
Did you write the book of love
And do you have faith in God above
If the Bible tells you so
Do you believe in rock n roll
Can music save your mortal soul
Then you can teach me to dance real slow
Well I know that you're in love with him
'Cause I saw you dancing in the gym
You both kicked off your shoes
Then I dig those rhythm and blues
I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck
but I knew that I was out of luck
The day the music died
I started singin'...
Bye, bye miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye?
Singing this will be the day that I die
this will be the day that I die
Now for 10 years we've been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rolling stone
But that's not how it used to be
When the jester sang for the king and queen
In a coat he borrowed from James Dean
In a voice that came from you and me
And while the King was looking down
The jester stole his thorny crown
The courtroom was adjourned
No verdict was returned
While Lennon read the book of Marx
The quartet kept practice in the park
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died
We were singin'
Bye, bye miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye?
Singing this will be the day that I die
this will be the day that I die
Helter Skelter in a summer swelter
The birds flew off with the fallout shelter
Eight miles high and falling fast
It landed foul on the grass
The players tried for a forward pass
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast
Now the halftime air was sweet perfume
While sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field,
The marching band refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed,
The day the music died?
We started singing
Bye, bye miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye?
Singing this will be the day that I die
this will be the day that I die
There we were all in one place
A generation lost in space With no time left to start again
So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
Jack Flash sat on a candle stick
'Cause fire is the devil's only friend.
As I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in
Could break that satan's spell
And as flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw satan laughing with delight
the day the music died.
I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away
I went down to the sacred store
Where I'd heard the music years before
But the man there said the music wouldn't play
And in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken
And the three men I admire most
The Father Son and Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died
They were singin'
Bye, bye miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye?
Singing this will be the day that I die
this will be the day that I die
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html
The 4:38pm EDT NOAA Hurricane Hunter mission found a central pressure of 903 mb, up from the 902 measured at 3:30pm. These pressures make Katrina the strongest hurricane ever observed in the Gulf of Mexico, surpassing Camille. Although the pressure has stopped falling, there is no indication that Katrina is about to undergo weakening, like we saw yesterday during her eyewall replacement cycle. When that cycle started, the eye diameter was 9 nm, but the present eye diameter is 25 nm. Eyewall replacement cycles usually begin when the eye shrinks below 10 nm, and there are no indications that Katrina's eye is going to shrink.
The list of strongest hurricanes of all time now reads:
Hurricane Gilbert (888 mb, 1988)
The Great Labor Day Hurricane (892 mb, 1935)
Hurricane Allen (899 mb, 1980)
Hurricane Katrina (902 mb, 2005)
Hurricane Camille (905 mb, 1969)
Landfall location and intensity
Katrina has continued to expand in size, and now rivals Hurricane Gilbert and Hurricane Allen as the largest hurricanes in size. When hurricanes reach such enormous sizes, they tend to create their own upper-air environment, making them highly resistant to external wind shear. The global computer models are not really hinting at any wind shear that might affect Katrina before landfall, and the only thing that might weaken her is an eyewall replacement cycle. Even if one of these happens in the next 12 hours, the weakest Katrina is likely to get before landfall is a Category 4 hurricane with 145 mph winds. Katrina is so huge and powerful that she will still do incredible damage even at this level. The track forecast has not changed significantly, and the area from New Orleans to the Mississippi-Louisiana border is going to get a catastrophic blow. I put the odds of New Orleans getting its levees breached and the city submerged at about 70%. This scenario, which has been discussed extensively in literature I have read, could result in a death toll in the thousands, since the evacuation order was given too late to get all the people out of the city. I recommend that if you are trapped in New Orleans tomorrow, that you wear a life jacket and a helmet if you have them. High rise buildings may offer good refuge, but Katrina has the potential to knoick down a high-rise building. A 25 foot storm surge and 30 - 40 foot high battering waves on top of that may be able to bring down a steel-reinforced high rise building. I don't believe a high rise building taller than six stories has ever been brought down by a hurricane, so this may not happen Monday, either. We are definitely in unknown waters with Katrina.
I have focused on New Orleans in much of my discussions about this storm, but Katrina will do tens of billions in damage all along the coast of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. Mobile Bay could well see a 10-foot storm surge. And inland areas will take heavy damage as well; Katrina will still be a hurricane 180 miles inland, and cause widespread flooding throughout the Tennessee Valley.
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of you in Katrina's way, and I urge all readers of this blog to do the same.
Jeff Masters
U.S. Composite Satellite Animation:
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/us_comp/us_comp.html
CNN's an Radar is estimating "extensive and widespread" power outages in New Orleans.
I could have told you that. And I don't need " an" in my name to make it anymore accurate.
Although that would be cool.
So some are ready to turn New Orleans into a swamp area, and never work on it again?some may even question the wisdom of trying to rebuild the city at all.
Wow.
lol, Manu beat me to it.
Oh I don't think THEY will be the ones turning it.So some are ready to turn New Orleans into a swamp area, and never work on it again?
I am kind of shocked that so few of the dome folks are wearing any rain gear - it is in the forecast after all.
12,000 people in the superdome. I can't believe that the rest got out of NO. There's a lot of people in danger.
If they don't rebuild then the hurricane wins. Hurricanes everywhere will get the urge to attack America.some may even question the wisdom of trying to rebuild the city at all.
If they don't rebuild then the hurricane wins. Hurricanes everywhere will get the urge to attack America.
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