On/offs aren't raw plus-minus, but keep showing what you know.Dude has to share garbage minutes with Pondexter playing PG but Chinook wants to use raw +/-
lost his guy on D a few times, pretty amateur mistakes.
but what's really aggravating is how Spurs never can break the defense down and start swinging the ball around the 3-point line with the defense scrambling, even against these pathetic suns, never any open shots for Bertans or Forbes
Yes, they are. On/off is the ac ulated raw +/-.
No, it's not. It's the offensive and defensive ratings, along with other rate stats.
But keep showing what you know.
On/off is +/- per game, or per 100 possesions. It's a ty stat without enough sample size.
Nope, it's per100. That's it. We've both been referencing the same stat from the same source. That source is very clear as to what they mean. Before you go on with "But technically, some on/off could be raw plus-minus", you referenced what I said in our earlier argument, which cited the stats per100. Not raw.
It's not as ty as Bertans' play has been.It's a ty stat without enough sample size.
Everytime this scrub starts, you just know it's going to be a tough night and no defense will be played
This guy knows.
He's garbage.
"Glad he (Bertans) was riding the bench all night" -Doug Christie commentating for the Kings
One of the great, objective local commentators in the league. Davis was a disaster on D, but given how terrible Belinoma was on both ends, I think Bert could have at least played the glass-cannon/gunner role tonight. Pop needs to be willing to drop Marco from the rotation when other guys are playing better. They don't have to depth to completely replace him, but he doesn't need to come in for his whole stint every game.
He really wasn't. Unless you're willing to call 85% or our roster WORSE than disaster on a nightly basis. Look, by no means should he start ahead of Rudy, but he should be on the court and, more importantly, they have to at least look for him if not run plays.
These are the types of shots Bertans can make when playing with confidence:
This guy should get at least two plays to get him threes coming off screens in every stint he gets in the floor. He has JJ Ree , Kyle Korver type of shooting. He can go off pretty often. He only needs a coach that trusts him and understands his potential. There's no other player on the roster that can provide what this guy can provide. He just needs the confidence (and play calling) that allows him to finally feel like he fits in the NBA.
Getting him to only stand in a corner waiting for spot up opportunities and yanking him at the first mistake isn't going to work.
This is a classic player-fan antic. My whole post said he should have gotten minutes, but you took the one critical part and isolated it and used it to basically agree with the larger point while still complaining. Bertans hasn't been a good defender this year. No idea why he can't stay upright against any opposition, but it's weird. But when you have another bad defender like Beli who can't even shoot right now, it makes sense to try other guys.
Is this a repost?
I think Bertans got elbowed and cried on the ground during the game today...check 9:00 in the 1st quarter
Probably. I have lost count of how many times I have ed about Pop refusing to do what is so clearly the obvious thing to do (play Splitter, play Murray, play White, this).
Then you misunderstood me. Not as much a player fan as one would think, either. The way your sentence about defense was constructed, made it look like you implied the Kings game. While overall for the season Davis hasn't been good, it's safe to say that he's much less the culprit on the defensive end some people here want to make him out to be.
I think you are a solid poster with often good insight. No need to call people names, like player-fan.
Where do you expect to hid Bertans on defense? I mean, he's only a +/- -11.4 on the season.
Having guys that can go off hitting threes out of screens is such a game changer in today's NBA. That's why the Warriors with Curry and Thompson broke the NBA. That's why guys like JJ Red and even TOSB Korver are so important. We have a guy like that in Bertans, yet we barely call catch and shoot opportunities coming off screens for him. Instead we prefer to waste 18 seconds trying to post somebody up to end up shooting long fadeaway twos.
Probably the same place where we hide guys like Bellinelli, Mills and Forbes. Those guys are playing a combined 80 minutes per game.
Woah, I'm surprised Bertans is only a +/- -1.4 for the season, what with having to share the floor with Beli and Mills so often..Probably the same place where we hide guys like Bellinelli, Mills and Forbes. Those guys are playing a combined 80 minutes per game.
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