Any way the Spurs get in on the Anthony Davis conversation!?!

[TheGreatYacht]

Both you and duncan2k5 showing your not paying attention... The OP had Bertans, White, Murray, Lonnie in that comparison. Check the stats, do an eye-test (and get some glasses both of you), and well

Bertans > Kuzma
White > Ingram
Murray >= Ball (don't forget to factor in Lavar...)

Looks like a sweep to the Spurs for me.

I may need an eye-test but you're in need of an Alzheimer's test, son. Ooof

I'm also failing to realize why folks are acting like Zubac isn't 21 years old and part of their young core? I think I know why, but that's none of my business.

Kuzma >>> Bertans
Ingram >>> Murray & Walker
Zubac >>>>>>>> Poeltl
Hart < White

[dbreiden83080]

Well it seems like other stars on less-talent rosters did much than AD in his career

"I have a question.

We all acknowledge Anthony Davis is better than Dame, right? More valuable, etc.

Go look at Dame’s roster since LMA left. REALLY go look at it.

How has he made the playoffs every year and Davis has… done what he has?"

https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/sta...24527832129536

I don't watch him play on a reg basis, so I can't speak to exactly what the problem is? But the numbers in terms of wins and losses speak volumes. We have seen guys like Davis in the league before packing those stat sheets and losing a lot of ball games. Kevin Love was once a 26/13 guy in Minnesota. A little more old school, Latrell Sprewell was once putting up 25 a game winning 30 games in GS. Tracy McGrady used to put up God like numbers in the league and never got his teams anywhere. The knock on him was lack of playoff success. AD does not even make the playoffs all but 2 times in 7 years. he had Cousins for a while and NO still was not very good. Something is just Off with AD. He clearly is NOT making anyone any better. He just puts up the stats..

[TheGreatYacht]

21 year old Zubac has more potential than any of our young players much less Kuzma and Ingram..

This season when Zubac gets between 30-39 minutes:
(4 games, 32.7MP, 19.3ppg, 10.5rpg)

This season when Zubac gets between 20-29 minutes:
(6 games, 22.5MP, 14.7ppg, 7.5rpg)

If im RC, I try to be part of that trade only to get him. Would give New Orleans: Forbes, Walker and Toronto's pick....

[mo7888]

21 year old Zubac has more potential than any of our young players much less Kuzma and Ingram..



If im RC, I try to be part of that trade only to get him. Would give New Orleans: Forbes, Walker and Toronto's pick....

Your Troll game is epic!

[KDKSpurs24]

7 seasons in the league and he has made the playoffs twice.. Something is way off with this guy. I don't care about his stats..

Or... it could be the fact that the Pelicans have had THE most injured team in the whole league since he’s been there. Definitely a factor.

[DPG21920]

AD is immensely better than LMA... the only people that would ever say LMA is better than AD is ppl on spurstalk.com

You didn’t answer the question

[DPG21920]

LMFAO! Murray is better than Ball, but Kuz and Ingram are better than white and Lonnie, and it isn't even close... Lonnie can't even get in an NBA game, my guy... And both Kuz and Ingram are younger than white, have a higher ceiling, and are putting up better numbers... White will never be a star, whereas Kuz and Ingram are expected to be eventually

[dbreiden83080]

Or... it could be the fact that the Pelicans have had THE most injured team in the whole league since he’s been there. Definitely a factor.

With Lebron getting to the end of the road, if AD goes to LA, they will need 2 or 3 more star players around AD to win anything..

[NameLess Scrub]

George wanted LA also. Said he wouldn't re-sign with anyone but the Lakers.

If you can put the player into a good team situation, winning and such, greed will take over, and they will likely stay. Most in this situation have already left the supermax on the table, and would be loathe to leave another $40M behind to go play for Magic's dysfunctional Mystery Tour.

I think there's a difference between getting there by trade or by free agency.

Free agency wise I agree. Trade wise we have SA probably making sure Kawhi didn't go to the Lakers so easily, but I didn't think that was necessarily the case with the Pelicans.

That's before AD supposedly demanded to go to the Lakers. That's what makes the organizations send their players to another country, IMHO

[lmbebo]

Stephen A Smith on his radio show saying NO not trading AD unless can't miss deal offered. And sounds like they may wait till he is a free agent and risk losing him for nothing. But will offer him the extension next summer and as a free agent which may worth up to $300 million at that point. And at that point as a FA, he would be walking away from over $100 million dollars (maybe like $125 million).

That everyone talks about endorsement deals, etc. But many players don't make that much with endorsement deals or shoe deals.

[lmbebo]

https://sports.yahoo.com/pelicans-re...181930885.html

Demps not talking at all apparently

[RD2191]

https://sports.yahoo.com/pelicans-re...181930885.html

Demps not talking at all apparently

Good. the Lakers.

[RD2191]

How long before ESPN starts blaming for Pop for Demps not answering calls?

[lmbebo]

How long before ESPN starts blaming for Pop for Demps not answering calls?

ESPN is always blaming Pop for everything.

[TheGreatYacht]

What's so funny?

[monty4329]

I dunno... Pop just dealt with essentially the same issue and sent Kawhi East instead of his preferred destination in the West, and I could see him making the argument that giving in to demands of a player under contract sets a bad precedent for GMs. LeBron is 34 now, and every little delay put in his way lessens the chance of the Lakers building a team that could challenge for a ring. I guess I would just phrase it as "trying to prevent another superteam" as opposed to "trying to screw over" the Lakers because of a vendetta.

The Toronto trade was the best available on paper. Unfortunately PATFO, with all the resources of an NBA front office, didn't think about looking inside DDR underwear and were hence tricked into believing he had a pair.

[TD 21]

Kawhi's winning % as a leader is even better than his overall winning %, tbh. He has two 60+ wins seasons under his belt on that role.

I was clearly talking playoffs, which is why I brought up his paltry resume as a lead option.

[DAF86]

I was clearly talking playoffs, which is why I brought up his paltry resume as a lead option.

Three playoffs appearances in three tries. A first round, a second round and a WCF. That beats the out of Davis entire career.

[Twisted_Dawg]

The Toronto trade was the best available on paper. Unfortunately PATFO, with all the resources of an NBA front office, didn't think about looking inside DDR underwear and were hence tricked into believing he had a pair.

A nut check wasn't necessary. Any player that is benched by his team in the playoffs because of suck ass play should tell you all you need to know about that player.

[TD 21]

Three playoffs appearances in three tries. A first round, a second round and a WCF. That beats the out of Davis entire career.

Those Spurs teams would have made the playoffs without him and beating the Grizzlies isn't exactly a claim to fame. Also, he didn't make the WCF. He got injured during the WCSF and his team advanced without him.

He's done nothing notable as a lead option in the playoffs. Matter fact, he lost two series when his team was (wrongly) regarded as clear favorites.

[Barfunk]

Lol Stephen A. subtly trying to get people to hate Pop with this leak. He's always hated the Spurs deep down. Well I guess that goes for most of the media outside SA.

[DAF86]

Those Spurs teams would have made the playoffs without him and beating the Grizzlies isn't exactly a claim to fame. Also, he didn't make the WCF. He got injured during the WCSF and his team advanced without him.

He's done nothing notable as a lead option in the playoffs. Matter fact, he lost two series when his team was (wrongly) regarded as clear favorites.

Do you think the Spurs would have beaten the Rockets without Kawhi for the entire series? I don't. So I count that as a WCF appearance for Kawhi too. And let's not forget what happened on that WCF.

[Chillen]

They are not taking phone calls because he is going to likely get traded to Boston in the summer. If Ainge offered Tatum that seals the deal, they are also hoping he changes his mind and stays with Pelicans.

At this point Lakers need to worry about making the playoffs more than trading half their roster for a superstar player like AD.

[KimmyGib]

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[TD 21]

Do you think the Spurs would have beaten the Rockets without Kawhi for the entire series? I don't. So I count that as a WCF appearance for Kawhi too. And let's not forget what happened on that WCF.

No, but that's not the same thing as saying he made the WCF and you can't assume things would have played out how they did because of the caliber of player he is.

Game 5 was a coin flip. Plug his tunnel vision, ISO ball ass in and maybe he clanks a few contested mid rangers instead of kicking out to Green for 3. Maybe Ginobili isn't on the court for all the moments he is down the stretch, maybe Simmons isn't (drew the crucial charge on Harden) etc. Who knows what would have changed, but had the result, game 6 likely doesn't play out the way it does.