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    I prefer nobody to die too, but frankly we're surrounded with fake tough guys that watch too much Rambo... so this shouldn't be surprising either IMVHO
    The dude was a fat pathetic sack of . If you're over 50 and still attending right wing rallies then you deserve what's coming to you. Fatass should've been at home enjoying his grandchildren but instead he's out trying to provoke the Libs, now the idiot is dead. I wish I could tell you I felt bad for the guy, but I don't. I actually think it's kind of hilarious. As we say in the RGV, Andale, por pendejo.

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    So a trigger happy wannabe cop is going to prison and a violence-provoking MAGA is dead.

    Win-win IMO
    You didn't seem to have the same sentiment with Capt Sav-a-Ho who supported the cops and died anyhow.

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    lol some dip veteran with PTSD
    wow

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    Exactly. Maybe y'all should add a "non- hole countries with a higher death rate than the US" line to that daily COVID tracker.
    That reminds me...

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    Politics aside, I genuinely believe the security guard thought the man was reaching for a gun in his waist which is why he fired at him.

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    The dude was a fat pathetic sack of . If you're over 50 and still attending right wing rallies then you deserve what's coming to you. Fatass should've been at home enjoying his grandchildren but instead he's out trying to provoke the Libs, now the idiot is dead. I wish I could tell you I felt bad for the guy, but I don't. I actually think it's kind of hilarious. As we say in the RGV, Andale, por pendejo.
    He was a hard 49 apparently.

    And he was a ing dumbass who did this before. Seems it was just a matter of time before someone hit back.

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    I prefer nobody to die too, but frankly we're surrounded with fake tough guys that watch too much Rambo... so this shouldn't be surprising either IMVHO
    We should just take all these re ed incel types and match them up and let them go at it without weapons until the wear themselves out. Then they get to take on two other idiots who have done the same until they cant move a muscle but at least live. If they keep having these "need to be violent compulsions" then just keep them in the tournament.

    I can dream.

    Guns are too fckn easy with often disastrous results. Its an easy way to a very bad resolution.

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    I'm not interested in your wing nut distraction, tbh.
    Can't answer the question, huh?

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    Politics aside, I genuinely believe the security guard thought the man was reaching for a gun in his waist which is why he fired at him.
    When he's on the ground his vest opens and it looks like he might have been packing but it could have been almost anything hanging off his belt..

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    So a trigger happy wannabe cop is going to prison and a violence-provoking MAGA is dead.

    Win-win IMO
    wow

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    He was a hard 49 apparently.

    And he was a ing dumbass who did this before. Seems it was just a matter of time before someone hit back.
    Gawd damn. Dude looked 60+ tbh

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    Politics aside, I genuinely believe the security guard thought the man was reaching for a gun in his waist which is why he fired at him.
    You'd have to explain why he drew his weapon in the 1st place.

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    No it doesn't. Violence and death are not synonymous.
    Fine. But the post you originally responded to was in an exchange about killings and shootings. Go back and read it.

    Also, if the country had 20 billion people and the same 200K died, that miniscule percentage would be still 200K deaths, but the death rate would be very low. So death rate absolutely matters. When jurisdictions are controlled at the state level, and you want to ignore state level death rates in favor of compiling all results to issue blame to the federal level, that's just wrangling the stats to suit your narrative.
    You don't need the hypothetical 200 billion population because we know the population of the United States. And our death rate still sucks. Again you're trying to change the discussion from federal response to state and local response. It's a separate discussion and one that I'm sure people would be happy to have if you want to bring it up. Doesn't make the federal response any less ty.

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    You'd have to explain why he drew his weapon in the 1st place.
    He was assaulted.

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    Gawd damn. Dude looked 60+ tbh
    Crystal meth is one uva drug.

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    You didn't seem to have the same sentiment with Capt Sav-a-Ho who supported the cops and died anyhow.
    You're right I didn't. That guy shouldn't have been killed. That was not a win-win. Next?

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    Spare us your humanity.
    Guy who defends rulers who use gas on their people.

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    Fine. But the post you originally responded to was in an exchange about killings and shootings. Go back and read it.



    You don't need the hypothetical 200 billion population because we know the population of the United States. And our death rate still sucks. Again you're trying to change the discussion from federal response to state and local response. It's a separate discussion and one that I'm sure people would be happy to have if you want to bring it up. Doesn't make the federal response any less ty.
    Per usual trying to re direct.
    His MO that continually fails.

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    Mostly peaceful though.

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    Crystal meth is one uva drug.

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    I was talking about civil when I said vicarious liability.

    The bar is much lower in terms of only needing to show by a preponderance of evidence, but you still need to have a claim upon which relief can be sought in the first place.
    There's an undeniable contract between the company this guy was working for and the media company. He was also protecting Media employees.

    At some point the Media company will do the math on risk vs reward and settle this for much less of whatever they'll be sued for.

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    There's an undeniable contract between the company this guy was working for and the media company. He was also protecting Media employees.

    At some point the Media company will do the math on risk vs reward and settle this for much less of whatever they'll be sued for.
    That doesn't necessarily make them vicariously liable for the shooter's actions.

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    Can't answer the question, huh?
    I'll answer it by stating how utterly stupid it is to compare a guy being chased by a mob and defending his life to this, which amounts to an execution morally if not criminally.

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    Not sure what's "wow" about it.

    Are you now opposed to people shooting to kill when they feel threatened?

    Do you not feel this person should go to prison?

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    That doesn't necessarily make them vicariously liable for the shooter's actions.
    It doesn't have to be that charge. They could be sued for negligence, accessory to murder, aiding and abetting... the bar is so much lower in civil trials.

    This is why 97% of civil cases are either settled or dismissed without a trial.

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