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Wheee!!!
I'm not sure why they even bothered. They just didn't want money available for a week?
Is this a nightmare?
Wake me up in November.
Wheee!!!
I'm not sure why they even bothered. They just didn't want money available for a week?
they offered less money for Butler bec they knew the Knicks will match? that's the way i look at it.
Because the Knicks' payroll exceeds the league's luxury tax, Butler's $7million contract could cost them twice as much.
WE STILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO NAB BUTLER. Hope so.
They knew New York would match? Why would they offer then?
Unless they never wanted to spend the money.
Perhaps the Spurs can work out a sign and trade with the Knicks. How about Oberto, cash and draft picks?
That'd work under the cap.
BTW, a sign-and-trade could happen if all parties agree to rescind the offersheet.
That is probably the Spurs' best chance.
Who would we give to the Knicks, though? All our fat, bloated contracts are already gone!
According to the ny post the Knicks unlikely match the offer
http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/...arc_berman.htm
BUTLER SIGNS SPURS' $7M OFFER
By MARC BERMAN
July 13, 2006 -- In a shock to the Knicks, center Jackie Butler signed a staggering three-year, $7 million offer sheet with the Spurs on the first day of the free-agent signing period yesterday, according to sources.
The Knicks have seven days to match the offer but it's unlikely they will go that high. Isiah Thomas said through a spokesman that no decision has been made. The Knicks made Butler a $920,000 qualifying offer to keep him restricted. Butler is their third-string center, but is viewed as valuable in case Jerome James were to report out of shape. Butler, 21, showed potential in parts of two seasons with the Knicks as a low-post scorer.
The Spurs are desperate for a big man after losing their two centers - Nazr Mohammed and Rasho Nesterovic. Thomas said Monday he expected it to be "a long summer" regarding Butler's situation.
"My summer just got a lot shorter," said agent Keith Glass, who is close friends with Larry Brown. "We're grateful the Knicks pulled him out of the CBA. They were obviously correct to do that. I think San Antonio is a great place for him. If the Knicks choose to match, it shows they wanted him as well."
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The hope is there, though I don't know much a about him but if so many ppl around here would welcome him he might have some skills...
Is it just me or does 3 yr @ $7 million not sound "shockingly high"?
I don't think they can do that once it's signed.
Why are you so worried about players? If they hang any more banners at the AT&T, it will start to clutter up the aesthetic.
And Pop is.....
The Spurs are playing w/a stacked deck.
According to the ny post the Knicks unlikely match the offer
http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/...arc_berman.htm
BUTLER SIGNS SPURS' $7M OFFER
By MARC BERMAN
July 13, 2006 -- In a shock to the Knicks, center Jackie Butler signed a staggering three-year, $7 million offer sheet with the Spurs on the first day of the free-agent signing period yesterday, according to sources.
The Knicks have seven days to match the offer but it's unlikely they will go that high. Isiah Thomas said through a spokesman that no decision has been made. The Knicks made Butler a $920,000 qualifying offer to keep him restricted. Butler is their third-string center, but is viewed as valuable in case Jerome James were to report out of shape. Butler, 21, showed potential in parts of two seasons with the Knicks as a low-post scorer.
The Spurs are desperate for a big man after losing their two centers - Nazr Mohammed and Rasho Nesterovic. Thomas said Monday he expected it to be "a long summer" regarding Butler's situation.
"My summer just got a lot shorter," said agent Keith Glass, who is close friends with Larry Brown. "We're grateful the Knicks pulled him out of the CBA. They were obviously correct to do that. I think San Antonio is a great place for him. If the Knicks choose to match, it shows they wanted him as well."
i hope james is working out right now with a trash bag cape.
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The hope is there, though I don't know much a about him but if so many ppl around here would welcome him he might have some skills...
Shocking? Staggering? To the Knicks??July 13, 2006 -- In a shock to the Knicks, center Jackie Butler signed a staggering three-year, $7 million offer sheet with the Spurs on the first day of the free-agent signing period yesterday, according to sources.
Staggering? This is the Knicks....In a shock to the Knicks, center Jackie Butler signed a staggering three-year, $7 million offer sheet with the Spurs on the first day of the free-agent signing period yesterday, according to sources.
According to the ny post the Knicks unlikely match the offer
http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/...arc_berman.htm
BUTLER SIGNS SPURS' $7M OFFER
By MARC BERMAN
July 13, 2006 -- In a shock to the Knicks, center Jackie Butler signed a staggering three-year, $7 million offer sheet with the Spurs on the first day of the free-agent signing period yesterday, according to sources.
The Knicks have seven days to match the offer but it's unlikely they will go that high. Isiah Thomas said through a spokesman that no decision has been made. The Knicks made Butler a $920,000 qualifying offer to keep him restricted. Butler is their third-string center, but is viewed as valuable in case Jerome James were to report out of shape. Butler, 21, showed potential in parts of two seasons with the Knicks as a low-post scorer.
it's the post. you can almost hear the laughter when berman typed that.
as long as all parties agree, the signed offer sheet can be rescinded.
I don't know if this has already been posted, but here's an article from the NY Daily news on the Knicks intention to match the Butler contract
Butler is served
Knicks center gets Spurs' offer
BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Jackie Butler signed a three-year, $7 million offer sheet with the San Antonio Spurs yesterday, but the Knicks, according to sources, intend to the keep the 21-year-old center.
The Knicks have seven days to match the offer or work out a sign-and-trade for Butler, a player Isiah Thomas uncovered in the CBA two years ago.
Joining the Spurs would be more beneficial to Butler because it would give him an opportunity to start alongside Tim Duncan and play with a perennial contender. The Spurs lost Nazr Mohammed to free agency and traded Rasho Nesterovic. In New York, Butler would be playing behind Eddy Curry and Jerome James.
The Knicks made a qualifying offer of $900,000 to Butler and questioned whether he could get a better deal. Thomas even predicted that negotiations with Butler would extend into September.
"My summer is much shorter," said Butler's agent, Keith Glass.
The 6-10, 265-pound Butler averaged 5.3 points, 3.3 rebounds and shot 54% from the field in 55 games with the Knicks. He is regarded as a better low-post player than James. By re-signing Butler, Thomas has the flexibility to include him in a trade if he cannot move James. Butler also provides insurance if Curry or James is injured.
Butler's increased role last season - he played more minutes than James - created some animosity between Thomas and former coach Larry Brown. Some in the front office felt that Brown favored Butler because he is represented by the son of Brown's agent, Joe Glass. The Knicks fired Brown last month and are trying to void the final four years of his contract, worth $40 million. Brown maintained that he simply felt that Butler was the better player.
"Without being coy about it, Larry is a part of my family," Keith Glass said from Las Vegas. "I clearly have thoughts and emotions and my emotions lie with them. Jackie has nothing to do with that. I've always understood that."
I really really hope we get Butler for one simple reason. He's the 1st guy on here that the general populous of this board hasn't cruxifiedand he is almost seen as a savior at this point for our 5 hole.
um the forum was throwing roses at mohammed's feet when he arrived
People just need to get used to the idea we won't get Butler. That way less people on the site will be slitting their wrists when the Knicks stop laughing long enough to match it.
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Thanks for the links ace3g but you can't post links to NBA video here.
As for the whole Butler thing, we all need to just accept right now that the Knicks are going to match, get the disappointment over with now. Let's just still hope we have time to get Javtokas back.
oh sorry forgot about that, I will get rid of them, if that is the case though then why doesnt the NBA crack down on youtube. there are so many nba highlight videos on that site
Kori and LJ like to be overly cautious about this because the site gets so much traffic and they don't want to be driving traffic specifically to NBA videos that violate copyright laws. They said other sites have been shut down for it. If they were on NBA.com it would be a different story.
Reading the Knicks forums around, they are thrilled that we only offerred 7 million over 3 years.
The Knicks are definitely matching that offer...Plus the Spurs worked out a pretty good deal for us for 3 years...In the end, it worked out perfectly!That's what happens when we let the Spurs do our paperwork...The Knicks probably would have paid 3 yrs/9 mil, if not more...Thanks again Spurs!
I'll pretend we get Butler for a little while longer, because I really can't countenance Francisco Elson as our big free agent signing this summer.
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