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[MannyIsGod]

I'm pretty sure PDBM isn't a right winger.

[xrayzebra]

Good justification.

"They want to kill you too". It couldn't be them protecting there turf, right? Muslim aren't trying to invade anybody. It's the US and Israel that are going into Muslim countries.

Well dummy, they do want to kill me. No and they aren't protecting their
turf. Israel just got through pulling back on some occupied territory and
left most of the infrastructure. There is a little UN resolution, you know the
same UN your crowd loves to praise, 1559 I think it is, that said the
terrorist were to be removed from the area and disarmed. Pardon me, but
does it appear they have been moved or disarmed?

Want to read it. It is short and sweet and to the point.

http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/G...df?OpenElement

Now, you know why some of us have a little bit of doubt about the UN
doing it's job. Now Israel has to do it for them. After provocation.

[clambake]

I wasn't suggesting that pdbm is a rightwinger, Manny.

Xray, noboby thinks the UN is anything more than a useless tool. It is a place for countries to appear objective.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I'd say their kiidnapping of those 2 soldiers was very ing misguided. If they expected Israel to react this way, then it wasn't misguided but very ing stupid.

Take your pick.

That's one incident.

He mentioned general hatred and attacks on Israel. That's what I asked him to expand on.

[xrayzebra]

I wasn't suggesting that pdbm is a rightwinger, Manny.

Xray, noboby thinks the UN is anything more than a useless tool. It is a place for countries to appear objective.

Hate to disagree one more time, but some don't even want to appear objective.

[MannyIsGod]

Gotcha.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Ok, give me a break here. I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more open minded on this subject than anyone here but you're just ignoring the facts now. Yeah, I have a lot of sympathy for Palestinians and I believe they are fighting an occupier but Hezbollah can off right about now.

Hezbollah was formed to fight the Israeli occupation of Lebanon, which ing ended 6 years ago. I have no problem with the existing as a political faction, but they've been ordered to disarm and have failed to do so. Hezbollah does a lot of good for the people of Lebanon, but that all goes down the ing drain when they are the direct cause of this type of military action.

The blame lies at their feet and no one - not even muslim countries - are denying that one bit.

Hezbullah leaves a lot left to be desired, even from the Arab world.

But...that doesn't justify an attack of the sort Israel is putting on them. For one kidnapping? I don't think Israel gives two s about the Lebanese people they just needed an excuse to execute an all-out assault on the southern region and they did just that.



FBI agents get killed in Mexico, do you see the US invading mexico or firing rokets into there water supply and dismantling there roadways?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Well dummy, they do want to kill me. No and they aren't protecting their
turf. Israel just got through pulling back on some occupied territory and
left most of the infrastructure. There is a little UN resolution, you know the
same UN your crowd loves to praise, 1559 I think it is, that said the
terrorist were to be removed from the area and disarmed. Pardon me, but
does it appear they have been moved or disarmed?

Want to read it. It is short and sweet and to the point.

http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/G...df?OpenElement

Now, you know why some of us have a little bit of doubt about the UN
doing it's job. Now Israel has to do it for them. After provocation.

Lmao.

Ya, after provocation. Big bad Israel is the victim here. Give me a ing break. I wish Palestine got 4 bill in aid from the US every year, then the Israeli's would be the terrorists.

[xrayzebra]

Mexico is not attempting to obliterate the United States from the map of the
world. Hezbollah, Iran and Syria are wanting just that to happen to Israel.

Does it piss you off that they didn't get anyone's permission to protect themselves?

We used to be that way. But nowadays, we go to the UN and every other damn
country and ask "may we", even when we are enforcing one their dumb ass
resolutions that they voted for to begin with......

[MannyIsGod]

I think Israel has been looking for an excuse to do what they're doing. I think they're going about it in a stupid way, and I don't think they'll follow through to the poit that would wipe out Hezbollah.

But at this point, I think they should keep the bombing up and follow it up with a real ground war against Hezbollah. Then then need to help the Lebanese govenrment either directly or through a proxy like the US. I just don't see them doing anything like that, and I think this will be all in vain and just another footnote in the regions history.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Mexico is not attempting to obliterate the United States from the map of the
world. Hezbollah, Iran and Syria are wanting just that to happen to Israel.

That tends to happen when you're land is given away and you're kicked out via a UN resolution.

[xrayzebra]

Lmao.

Ya, after provocation. Big bad Israel is the victim here. Give me a ing break. I wish Palestine got 4 bill in aid from the US every year, then the Israeli's would be the terrorists.

Yeah, you just keep on laughing, while they are attempting to saw your
head off. Oh, and tell them you are on their side. I'm sure they will listen
to all your fine arguments. Oh and by the way Palestine got a whole
lot of aid from this country and for many years. Why do you think they
are crying now about it being cut off.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Yeah, you just keep on laughing, while they are attempting to saw your
head off. Oh, and tell them you are on their side. I'm sure they will listen
to all your fine arguments. Oh and by the way Palestine got a whole
lot of aid from this country and for many years. Why do you think they
are crying now about it being cut off.

A whole lot of aid?

Look at how much Israel gets per year, then talk to me about Palestine getting aid.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Btw

Me and the moozlim are tight, I'd just throw on my turban and hook them up with some free slurpees.

[xrayzebra]

I think Israel has been looking for an excuse to do what they're doing. I think they're going about it in a stupid way, and I don't think they'll follow through to the poit that would wipe out Hezbollah.

But at this point, I think they should keep the bombing up and follow it up with a real ground war against Hezbollah. Then then need to help the Lebanese govenrment either directly or through a proxy like the US. I just don't see them doing anything like that, and I think this will be all in vain and just another footnote in the regions history.

Manny, have you been listening the the news today. Now, we, the United
States, is being blamed for everything. All we have to do is tell Israel to
stop and they will..... .....but Syria and Iran cant stop the terrorist.

It didn't take long. Even our wonderful friends, new found friends, I might
add, are saying we are giving Israel all the leave-way they want to
continue the fight. You got to love it.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Btw it was the Britts who mandated the land to the Jews I believe, not the UN. My bad.

[xrayzebra]

A whole lot of aid?

Look at how much Israel gets per year, then talk to me about Palestine getting aid.

How old are you anyway. You talk like a 13 year old. But they get more
than the other side got....it's not fair.

[clambake]

Then what are you waiting on Xray? Call your congressmen and tell them to get the nukes in the air!

(don't post back and say "we have nukes in the air at full ready 24 hours a day")
(don't post back and say "we also have submarines with nukes at the ready 24 hours a day")

Make the call. Your the guy with the cure, right?

[xrayzebra]

Btw it was the Britts who mandated the land to the Jews I believe, not the UN. My bad.

Yeah, your bad. Go read a little history along about 1948. They UN
ceded the land to them. With the United States casting the deciding
vote.

[xrayzebra]

Then what are you waiting on Xray? Call your congressmen and tell them to get the nukes in the air!

(don't post back and say "we have nukes in the air at full ready 24 hours a day")
(don't post back and say "we also have submarines with nukes at the ready 24 hours a day")

Make the call. Your the guy with the cure, right?

I have no idea what you point is on the above. Would you care to
explain it to me?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Yeah, your bad. Go read a little history along about 1948. They UN
ceded the land to them. With the United States casting the deciding
vote.

If you want to have a civil discussion, let's do it.

If you're going to turn into a condescending prick then you, seriously.

[clambake]

You've been cramming down everybodies throat that it is us or them.

"Let's wipe them out" you say.

OK. You are officially in charge of getting this done. Congratulations on you new position. Were all very excited to hear how you will accomplish this. Please tell us how to succeed. How will you save us?

[xrayzebra]

You made the statement not me. I told you the history of how Israel came into
being. And you called me the "condescending prick". You really are a small child
in your thinking. Civil discussion my foot.

[xrayzebra]

You've been cramming down everybodies throat that it is us or them.

"Let's wipe them out" you say.

OK. You are officially in charge of getting this done. Congratulations on you new position. Were all very excited to hear how you will accomplish this. Please tell us how to succeed. How will you save us?

I have not made the statement "wipe them out". I say defeat them. There
is a heck of a lot of difference. I will say, wipe out their movement and
let people know there are consequences to their actions. If they mess
with us or our well being we will not tolerate it. Just as Israel is doing now.
I have objections to the action going on over there now and support Israel.

I am no great lover of Israel. I think they have bitten the hand that
fed them several times. Speaking of some of their actions toward this
country. Like all the spying they have done, and got caught, and the
savaging of our ship some years back. But I do admire their courage
and what they have accomplished.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

As for the issue of who was responsible for giving the land to Jews...

In the end it was the UN. But before that it was the Brittaish army occupying it, and keeping the Palestinian Arabs there. Eventually the Jews drove the Britts out, the Britts had enough of the drama in the area and handed the issue over to the UN. Who eventually made the par ion.