Anyway, back to the original point, in March of 2007, an extensive set of detailed architectural drawings of the World Trade Center became public through the actions of a whistleblower. The 261 drawings included detailed plans for the North Tower (WTC 1), the World Trade Center foundation and basement, and the TV mast atop the North Tower. The set of drawings does not include plans for the other six buildings in the World Trade Center complex. However, since the Twin Towers were of almost identical construction, it is safe to assume that the structural details that the drawings shown for the North Tower are also largely applicable to the South Tower.
Both of the government-sponsored engineering studies of the Twin Towers' "collapses" -- FEMA's and NIST's -- are highly misleading about the core structures. Neither Report discloses dimensions for core columns -- dimensions that are clearly evident in the architectural drawings. Both Reports use a variety of techniques seemingly designed to minimize the strength of the cores or to conceal their structural role entirely.
This 66th floor core pic shows that most of the core columns retained their full outside dimensions well above the midpoints of the Towers. Of the sixteen columns bounding the long faces of the core, thirteen have outside dimensions of approximately 54 by 22 inches in this 66th floor section
Further...
That is the one question I would like Phenomanal to answer.These omitted and distorted facts serve to render the official reports extremely questionable. It seems that facts were being tweaked in order to get closer to an explanation for the collapses. Even then the reports both failed to provide adequate explanations of why the buildings fell.
The buildings more or less fell into their own footprints, which is something that normally takes weeks of expert planning when a building is intentionally demolished and there are only a few companies on the planet that can do it.
Within each trade tower there were 47 steel columns at the core and 240 perimeter steel beams. 287 steel-columns in total. According to the official story, random spread out fires on different floors caused all these columns to totally collapse at the same time and at a free fall speed, with no resistance from undamaged parts of the structure.
Professor Steven Jones points out that the total annihilation of the building, core columns and all, defies the laws of physics unless it was artificially exploded:
"Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum – one of the foundational Laws of Physics? That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors – and intact steel support columns – the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. If the central support columns remained standing, then the effective resistive mass would be less, but this is not the case – somehow the enormous support columns failed/disintegrated along with the falling floor pans."
What is meant by "significantly impeded"? How long does one expect each floor to hold up while twenty or thirty acres worth of building fall on top of it?
And I'd still like for you to answer why debris fell faster than the faster-than-free-fall building.
As opposed to naturally exploded?Professor Steven Jones points out that the total annihilation of the building, core columns and all, defies the laws of physics unless it was artificially exploded
Somehow, I don't think the now famous "nbadan dodge" is going to fly with dan on this one. I think he's serious about wanting an answer. Luckily for him, nobody who's asked him any questions about his theories in this thread was serious about wanting answers.
Clearly, those who were inquiring were simply blinded by their subjective biases and not seeking an objective discussion, which can only come with accepting as true dan's still unspoken theory about what happened to those towers.
Good luck, Phenomanal. Dan has called you out -- and unlike the rest of us, dan's serious. Really, really, really serious.
MORAN? or MORON?
Your a moran. Why don't you try and answer my questions if you think you have such a masterful understanding of physics. I added those qualifiers just so anyone who attempted the question would assume that the rocks were of equal surface area.
mookie,
A building (WTC7) is missing the bottom 17 rows of one corner after the main collapse, and you're wondering why it fell in that direction?its about that nobody knows what the happened, and the investigation, especially publicaly, was a complete joke, no rational person can be satisfied with the 911 commission report
Find an axe and go cut down a tree, dumbass.
the 911 Commission Report was a complete joke
the investigation was a sham
Where is the outcry for the truth about St. Nicholas' Church or the Marriott hotel? They weren't ivnestigated by th 9/11 commission either!
hi guys!
A Moran is a republican moron...MORAN? or MORON?
Try and keep up.
A Moran is a republican moron...
Try and keep up.
Did you jiust admit to stupid(ity)?
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Further...
That is the one question I would like Phenomanal to answer.
I suppose Stevens had a way of analyzing the entire collapse with data obtained from?????
Yeah, what exactly do you think that the National Ins ute of Standards has been up to???...
All we could see was the s of the building fall... The internal core was more than likely falling ahead of its outside framework. But I suppose Stevens was able to see the building's internal collapse dynamics amidst the smoke... That's quite some talent... How much longer did he wish each floor to delay the collapse?
Please nbadan... do yourself a favor and don't enter arguments you have no clue about... as in the underlying concepts required to participate.
If you wish to be duped by the conspiracy gang, be my guest... but at least provide a motive. You haven't really answered that one, have you.
Last edited by Phenomanul; 04-14-2007 at 10:52 PM.
The professor is wrong. Video evidence shows that the central support columns collapsed about 15 seconds after the rest of the building.
There was definitely a conspiracy to destory the WTC, Pentagon, Capitol/White House.
It included 19 Islamic men, mostly Saudi Nationals, who hijacked U.S. airliners and flew them into said buildings as part of their religious holy war against America.
Hope this has been helpfull.
I guess those French lured those Moors deep into Europe as an excuse to launch attacks against them at Tours.
Video
North tower collapse starts at 19:40. Core clearly visible starting around 19:50. Core can be seen collapsing around 20:05.
That's the lower part of the trusses, and why it collapsed at all is a bigger mystery, but the top trusses collapsed with little to no resistance.
Great view of debris flying out towards 7WTC. Thanks.
...but yet the buildings immediately around WTC7 survived...
...because they weren't hit like 7WTC, weren't constructed like 7WTC and didn't burn uncontrolled for seven hours....
The Marriott didn't.
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