Stoudemire and Diaw have to be Suspended

[Trainwreck2100]

And what would your opinion be if this was Kurt Thomas knocking Tony Parker out of bounds, and Duncan & Finley were the ones that left the bench?

Da are you doing here

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You don't get it by the letter of the law you are not allowed to step on the court if you are on the bench during a altercation PERIOD. There is no gray area on this and the Knicks in 97 proves that.

What altercation? There was no altercation, just a few people milling around.

Neither will be suspended, but Horry will be.

We're deep in the and we have only ourselves to blame... I will not use the terrible reffing as an excuse, because our team should have had more composure and found a way through it.

[Kevin Blackistone]

Way to respond to the post . I didn't have any problems with Terry's suspension, which he readily deserved. If you weren't such a little homer, you wouldn't blindly defend what was so obviously ed up tonight with Horry's actions.

We've all said Horry deserves a suspension. As do anyone leaving the bench and stepping on the court when Nash got clocked. That would be Amare and Diaw. Open and shut case.

[ponky]

I suggest you dont say anything you wouldnt say to my face.

, i'm not afraid of anybody, at least i say something rather than post stupid little cartoons about trolls

[VincentG]

People are overreacting. The rule statesuring an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench.

Key word vicinity. The word is vague so the league can have some wiggle room and make judgment calls. Amare and Diaw will not be suspended. If you need more proof that just because they leave the bench it's not automatic. Case and point the Lakers and Kings fight. Not all players who left the bench were suspended. It's not open and shut. I wish you people knew what you were talking about before stating it's open and shut. See below:

__________________________________________________ ___________________
Fox suspended six games; Christie two for Lakers-Kings fight
Oct. 28, 2002
SportsLine.com wire reports

NEW YORK -- Rick Fox was suspended for six games, Doug Christie was banished for two, and every member of the Sacramento Kings who left the bench during a fight with the Los Angeles Lakers got off scot-free.

In a surprising ruling Monday by NBA vice president Stu Jackson, the Sacramento Kings were not punished as badly as they may have expected for their part in a bench-clearing brawl during the first quarter of an exhibition game at Los Angeles last Friday.

Jackson ruled that because the players left the bench to join a fracas in a hallway underneath the stands, rather than on the court, they would not receive the customary one-game suspension for that offense.

"This is not a new precedent at all," Jackson said in a conference call with reporters. "In the end we felt this case was very unusual, a special case."

. . .

When the fight resumed beneath the stands, several Sacramento players left the bench area and raced down a tunnel leading to the locker rooms.

Stu Jackson noted that when the fight first broke out on the court, none of the Kings players left the bench. He also said that the Kings players likely did not know exactly what was happening under the stands when they rushed off the court to intervene.

"I don't think anybody on the benches fully knew what was going on out of sight of the bench areas," Jackson said.

. . .

Previous suspensions for leaving the bench were made in accordance with an NBA rule that states: "During an altercation, all players not taking part in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of the bench. Violators will be suspended without pay for a minimum of one game and fined up to $20,000."

Stu Jackson said any players who leave the bench during an on-court altercation will continue to be suspended for one game.

The Kings, who were relieved by the ruling, will have only nine players available for their opener against Cleveland as Mike Bibby, Lawrence Funderburke and Christie will be sidelined.

"I was glad the commissioner saw fit to understand, not just react," Christie said.

[ducks]

suns player will be suspened due to the fight in piston land
sad but true
spurs need to get thomas in foul trouble in game 5
DRIVE Attack!

[x_roux_x]

Haha Spurs can't beat the Suns so they want Amare suspended. So sad. Classless play by Horry caused the whole thing. If that's the case then Horry should be suspended for the rest of the series.

Haha the cheap ass mavericks couldnt beat anybody in the playoffs...haha...shut the up...we are still here...

[dbreiden83080]

This is TY Spurs should have won the game they lost it the Suns did not win it at all. They played like late in this game from every angle. Bottom line though Amare and Boris will not be playing in game 5 and i bet Horry is done for the series so Spurs had better look like winning game 5.

[mVp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0qe7PGCQvI

play of the ing game

[Kevin Blackistone]

What altercation? There was no altercation, just a few people milling around.

Neither will be suspended, but Horry will be.

We're deep in the and we have only ourselves to blame... I will not use the terrible reffing as an excuse, because our team should have had more composure and found a way through it.

Did you not watch the game? Nash got up running at Horry, Bell elbowed Horry from the side before Horry elbowed Bell in the chest. In NBA terms, that's an altercation.

[Amarelooms]

Then Duncan and Finley are gone and are total dumbasses for doing it. But that would never happen, because they don't have the IQ of a rock.

Typical, mavfan whines about the league twisting the rules and fixing the games and then advocates the very thing as soon as their soft team chokes in the first round.

Nothing to do with IQ lol. If it happened near the Spurs bench instead the same thing would happen...called EMOTION and protecting your team-mate...when you see your MVP freakin body checked into the scorers table you gonna step in that direction...HUMAN INSTINCT you dumb lol. Love these Spurs homers

[ponky]

We've all said Horry deserves a suspension. As do anyone leaving the bench and stepping on the court when Nash got clocked. That would be Amare and Diaw. Open and shut case.

diaw yes, amare no...besides, why do you guys care so much if amare plays? you really want to win a game that way? why ruin a great series?

[Kobulingam]

If this how you guys feel about everything, whats to stop D'Antoni from sending out Burke to Cold /Sucker Punch Duncan right in front of the Spurs Bench and see how many of them can "keep their cool" and stay put? I guarantee the whole bench clears.
All thats left would be for D'Antoni to make sure at least 5 guys stay seated at their bench and Suns win by default. I don't think any one here thinks that is how the series should go but that is the message that would be sent should Amare and Diaw get suspended.

Because if that happened D'Antoni will be out of the NBA.

[ATXSPUR]

We've all said Horry deserves a suspension. As do anyone leaving the bench and stepping on the court when Nash got clocked. That would be Amare and Diaw. Open and shut case.

THANK YOU!!! Horry gets suspended because he violated a rule. So did amare and diaw. I dont give a who started what or any of that bull . These suns have not given any good reasons why amare and diaw are above the rules.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Way to respond to the post . I didn't have any problems with Terry's suspension, which he readily deserved. If you weren't such a little homer, you wouldn't blindly defend what was so obviously ed up tonight with Horry's actions.

Where have I blindly defended Horry's actions? It was a cheap shot. So ing what? Horry lost his cool. In retaliation, so did Diaw and Amare.

That's ing life. And there are consequences for life.

And if you've got a problem with it, you prove you're nothing but another spoiled little Dallas brat who is still smarting over getting Golden Stated in the first round.

[gtownspur]

Suspend them. Period.

WTF! I totally agree,
First CBF,

now you!!!

It's the sign of the apocalypse.

[x_roux_x]

Amare was holding people back... LOOK AT THE REPLAY

looked thrice...and all three times I saw that u were wrong....

[mikekim]

I posted this in the wrong thread (yes, I am doing my copy/paste my own comment move...if you don't like it....alright, i'll leave...) don't know if this has been said already:

I'm starting to think....(and don't anyone take this as me condoning Horry's actions...I posted a thread about my thoughts on that) if amare and diaw get suspended, could Horry have made the ultimate veteran move with his foul???

He's old, he probably is in need of a break, so, knowing the temperament of the young suns, he figures he will make a couple suns players sit with him??

(realize that I am in no way saying this seriously with a straight face...but it's an interesting thought, haha)

Notice he commited the foul RIGHT by the suns bench...hmmmmmmmmm

mmmMMmMmm

























mmmm

[x_roux_x]

if thats the way you guys need to win this series, ok.

class of the league, right?

Yeah the mavericks fans are a fan base worthy to talk considering ur team...

[monosylab1k]

Then Duncan and Finley are gone and are total dumbasses for doing it. But that would never happen, because they don't have the IQ of a rock.

true. but hypothetically speaking, i think that if this happened, the vast majority of Spurs fans would scream bloody murder if any of their beloved players got suspended just because of the "letter of the law".

Typical, mavfan whines about the league twisting the rules and fixing the games and then advocates the very thing as soon as their soft team chokes in the first round.

i'm already on record that Amare and Diaw ought to be suspended according to the rules. so shove your "typical mavfan" bull right up your ass. I just think it's crap that a ass move by Horry hurts the Suns more than the Spurs. But I guess that's what the Suns get for emphasizing jacking up three's over having some sort of basketball IQ.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If this how you guys feel about everything, whats to stop D'Antoni from sending out Burke to Cold /Sucker Punch Duncan right in front of the Spurs Bench and see how many of them can "keep their cool" and stay put? I guarantee the whole bench clears.
All thats left would be for D'Antoni to make sure at least 5 guys stay seated at their bench and Suns win by default. I don't think any one here thinks that is how the series should go but that is the message that would be sent should Amare and Diaw get suspended.

One, the league would nail the Suns and their collective asses to the wall.

The other, you obviously don't know about the rules because if suspensions would cause a team to have less than a certain number of players active for a game then they will stagger the suspensions.

diaw yes, amare no...besides, why do you guys care so much if amare plays? you really want to win a game that way? why ruin a great series?

What is so different about Diaw and Amare? Because one's a star and one's not?

[Kobulingam]

diaw yes, amare no...besides, why do you guys care so much if amare plays? you really want to win a game that way? why ruin a great series?

yes. This game was handed to the SUns. Without refs Spurs looked sharp enough to build a 20 point lead.

Raja throwing elbows and flopping all over. Nash running into Spurs to free up teammates. Barbosa leaning 90degrees into Parker to get a foul call. Suns in the restricted circle (pretty obvious) and getting charge calls (on Duncan!!). Stupid offensive foul calls on Spurs (on Duncan!!!). Hard foul on Oberto (no call). Hard foul on Parker.

It has to even out. We get Game 5 easily with Amare, Bell, Diaw missing.

[ponky]

Where have I blindly defended Horry's actions? It was a cheap shot. So ing what? Horry lost his cool. In retaliation, so did Diaw and Amare.

That's ing life. And there are consequences for life.

And if you've got a problem with it, you prove you're nothing but another spoiled little Dallas brat who is still smarting over getting Golden Stated in the first round.

apparently you're the only one who can't get over the fact that i'm a mavs fan or that first round series, seeing as how you mentioned it like five times in the last two pages...that would be like me constantly ridiculing your dumbass aggies hoop team over their loss two months ago. i'm over it, i suggest you quickly get over it as well seeing as how your team is now all tied up with the suns. btw, i'm not from dallas, never lived there, have no desire to live anywhere but austin and nyc.

[dbreiden83080]

Jackson ruled that because the players left the bench to join a fracas in a hallway underneath the stands, rather than on the court, they would not receive the customary one-game suspension for that offense.

This is all you need to know they were not on the court during the altercation. Had this happened on the court they would have been suspended. Again by the letter of the law Amare and Boris are gone for game 5.

[ponky]

yes. This game was handed to the SUns. Without refs Spurs looked sharp enough to build a 20 point lead.

Raja throwing elbows and flopping all over. Nash running into Spurs to free up teammates. Barbosa leaning 90degrees into Parker to get a foul call. Suns in the restricted circle (pretty obvious) and getting charge calls (on Duncan!!). Stupid offensive foul calls on Spurs (on Duncan!!!). Hard foul on Oberto. Hard foul on Parker.

It has to even out. We get Game 5 easily with Amare, Bell, Diaw missing.

alright homer, alright