Duncan vs. KG facts.

[Shred]

I answered that in post #229 but no need to go back, I will repost here.

He and Bowen stepped onto the court when Elson was undercut by Amare and no foul was called. That, in itself, is not against the rule. Although if I was the ref, I would have given them both T's. Amare continued downcourt after it happened and Elson complained to the refs. Bowen and Duncan stepped onto the court when it happened but by rule since there was no altercation, the suspension rule does not come into effect.

RIF (Reading Is FUNdamental): Not WHEN, but WHY?

[ChumpDumper]

Such is the power of the asterisk

Stay near the bench.

[samikeyp]

Doesn't matter if they thought there was one?

Actually it doesn't. They can think there is one all they want but until one happens, it doesn't matter. Right or wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

RIF (Reading Is FUNdamental): Not WHEN, but WHY?

Doesn't matter.

[samikeyp]

RIF (Reading Is FUNdamental): Not WHEN, but WHY?

Again with the insults?

They were complaining to the refs. Which is why I thought they should have got T's.

[Shred]

Actually it doesn't. They can think there is one all they want but until one happens, it doesn't matter. Right or wrong.

I think even you have to admit your argument's devolved into total ludicrousness.

[samikeyp]

Such is the power of the asterisk, Spur fan will deny reality as long as it means in his own sick little mind he can justify what happened.

Reality according to who?

The Spurs should have an asterisk or give up their trophy because you said so?

[Shred]

Again with the insults?

They were complaining to the refs. Which is why I thought they should have got T's.

Again, why? I've seen enough posts talking about what a dumbass Amare is because he left the bench. I just want to hear why Duncan isn't a dumbass, too.

[samikeyp]

I think even you have to admit your argument's devolved into total ludicrousness.

Your opinion. I don't agree.

[Shred]

Reality according to whom? It was all on tape. YouTube it.

[Spurminator]

And the harm would be, what? Fans might doubt the integrity of officiating in the NBA? THE HORROR!

And there it is. You admit that you should be above the rules because it's really not that big a deal.

Thanks for settling.

Now back to why Duncan owns KG...

[samikeyp]

Again, why?

Again...

They were complaining to the refs

They being Duncan and Bowen.

[Shred]

Again, why? I've seen enough posts talking about what a dumbass Amare is because he left the bench. I just want to hear why Duncan isn't a dumbass, too.

Anyone?

Bueller?

[ChumpDumper]

Again, why? I've seen enough posts talking about what a dumbass Amare is because he left the bench. I just want to hear why Duncan isn't a dumbass, too.

He was a dumbass. He just was lucky there wasn't an altercation.

[Spurminator]

It was all on tape. YouTube it.

Tell me what's going on at 3:03-3:07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0qe7PGCQvI

[samikeyp]

Reality according to whom? It was all on tape. YouTube it.

Youtube caught an altercation between Elson and Amare?

Cool...can i see?

[samikeyp]

And the harm would be, what? Fans might doubt the integrity of officiating in the NBA? THE HORROR!

That was happening wayyyy before the Suns-Spurs series!

[samikeyp]

He was a dumbass. He just was lucky there wasn't an altercation

Agreed. The meltdown here would have huge!

[Shred]

Tell me what's going on at 3:03-3:07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0qe7PGCQvI

Already back within the coach's box.

[ChumpDumper]

Already back within the coach's box.

1) No he isn't.

2) The rule says nothing about the coach's box anyway.

[samikeyp]

Serious question.

Shred...do you believe 100%, without a doubt that if there were no suspensions that the Suns would have won the series and that the Spurs would have had no shot at all?

Other Phx fans feel this way....I am curious about your take.

[Shred]

1) No he isn't.

2) The rule says nothing about the coach's box anyway.

Looked like it to me. The rule uses the undefined term, "bench area." Stern didn't have any discretion in determining what cons utes the "bench area," I suppose?

[Shred]

Serious question.

Shred...do you believe 100%, without a doubt that if there were no suspensions that the Suns would have won the series and that the Spurs would have had no shot at all?

Other Phx fans feel this way....I am curious about your take.

Nothing's 100%, which is why they (usually) play the game on the court. However, I will say it was more likely than not.

[samikeyp]

Looked like it to me. The rule uses the undefined term, "bench area." Stern didn't have any discretion in determining what cons utes the "bench area," I suppose?

I think this is the NBA's biggest problem. Some rules are way too vague.

[Shred]

I think this is the NBA's biggest problem. Some rules are way too vague.

So why couldn't Stern have said they returned to the "bench area" in time? Problem solved. But he had to flex his muscles....

Anyway, now that I have at least a few Spur fans who will no longer engage in the "Stoudemire is a dumbass with no basketball sense," at least I have made some headway here.