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If it's stats you want, go with KG.
If you want championships, go with Duncan.
According to Statsoverload.com, in head-to-head matchups between the Timberwolves and Spurs, Garnett has averaged 21.7 points to Duncan's 20.3, outrebounded him 12.1 to 11.2, averaged 5.1 assists to Duncan's 2.8 and shot 52.6 percent to Duncan's 49.1.
Oh, and Duncan had 251 fouls in those games. Garnett has been whistled 215 times.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/colu...in0625-ON.html
So much for Duncan "owning Garnett".
Heres the latest on the MARION for KG swap:
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....ulls-headlines
T'wolves finally see light
After many years of prodding, Garnett deal seems in stars
Sam Smith, Chicago Tribune, June 25, 2007
"...Timberwolves general manager Kevin McHale is said to be
interested in only a limited number of prospects in this
draft. Minnesota has the No. 7 pick and McHale supposedly
wants a higher pick, which hurts the Bulls at No. 9. That's
why there is serious talk of a deal with the Celtics, who
have No. 5. Some insist that deal isn't dead yet, and talk
of another trade continues to have legs.
All the particulars aren't established, but the basics are
the Suns get Garnett, the Celtics get Shawn Marion and the
Timberwolves get the No. 5 pick, the Hawks' unprotected
first-round pick for next season, which the Suns hold, the
Suns' two firsts this year (No. 24 and 29) and the expiring
contracts of Kurt Thomas and Theo Ratliff.
The holdup supposedly has been Marion's reluctance to go to
Boston—he has an opt-out clause after next season. But this
is unlike Garnett's refusal. There's a huge market for
Garnett; not so Marion. The Celtics would hold Marion's
"Bird contract" rights. They'd be the only team that could
realistically make up the $17.8 million Marion would give up
if he opts out.
This is a deal that makes sense all around, especially now
that Kobe Bryant has reopened a dialogue with the Lakers and
speculation has the Lakers making an offer to Minnesota for
Garnett. He lives in Malibu and he and Bryant are said to
talk frequently, getting together recently to discuss
playing together.
But the Lakers don't have the draft picks to entice
Minnesota, and you can be sure the Suns wouldn't want to see
Bryant and Garnett together in their division.
You also could see the Mavs getting involved—Garnett for
Dirk Nowitzki? Minnesota finally seems to understand it's
time to move forward.
The Timberwolves would have two top 7 picks this year, and
with the '08 Atlanta pick they would have a good chance to
be in the lottery next year. They also would have oodles of
salary cap room coming up for big free agents due on the
market. And even if big-time guys aren't going to Minnesota,
saving $60 million isn't bad.
I'd have to commend Minnesota management. And it would be
worth a shot for Boston. The Celtics looked better playing
quicker and smaller with Al Jefferson at center at the end
of last season, and there's no way they're moving Paul
Pierce, who's 30, has a huge contract and is a favorite of
owner Wyc Grousbeck.
A front line of Pierce, Marion and Jefferson would be
intriguing and capable of fulfilling GM Danny Ainge's dream
of playing fast. And where would Marion go? Who under the
salary cap is going to invest their future in a 30-year-old
Marion in 2008?
OK, I'm in..."
If it's stats you want, go with KG.
If you want championships, go with Duncan.
Garnett has only stepped out of the first round of the playoffs once in his career. Who gives a how he's done vs Duncan in a bunch of regular season matchups? I hope you didn't waste too much time posting this
Knew THAT was coming!!!
"Ok ok...so Duncan doesn't outplay KG, but we meant that Duncan owns KG when it comes to rings".
2002 Forum.
"You smell that, Rabbit?"
"Fear."
Duncan > KG
Duncan never owned KG statistically, this is well known to people who actually followed KG before his name was mentioned in a rumor for the Suns.
The natural response is "So what?"
You have to prove why it matters, because it hasn't mattered for a decade.
And yet, Everyone knows and loves KG while most people don't have a clue who Tim Duncan is.
Why is that?
People dislike champions, I guess.
Here's some facts:
TD > KG.
TD's career Stats > KG's
TD's rings > KG's
TD's accolades > KG's
TD's Sportmanship > KG's
TD > KG
And why does that matter?
Why does that matter? And why does Tim Duncan get more votes in the All-Star game than Kevin Garnett?
They must not teach arithmetic in Podunk, Texas.
http://www.insidehoops.com/all-star-...-results.shtml
Still waiting for sunfan's explanation why individual stats and fan recognition mean anything when it comes to winning NBA championships.
Who said it did?
Spurs fans claimed that Duncan owned KG every time he played him. I completely DESTROYED that theory.
Waiting for an explanation as to why one player gets more credit than another similar player statistically when one player is surrounded by All-Star and Finals MVP caliber players and the other is surrounded by bums....
So it doesn't?Who said it did?You'll have to link that. I haven't really seen that here.Spurs fans claimed that Duncan owned KG every time he played him.
wow!... 1.6 million votes for beloved "America's Baller" Kevin Garnett and 1.4 million for the virtual unknown Tim Duncan....now THAT is a huge difference....They must not teach arithmetic in Podunk, Texas.
http://www.insidehoops.com/all-star-...-results.shtml
Let me know when KG is able to win a championship, let alone four.
Tim Duncan Makes His Team And Teammates Better, Kg Doesnt
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And I still say Clyde Drexler > Michael Jordan.
duncan has had draft picks kg has not
but kg does not want it late duncan does
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...5&page=2&pp=26It doesn't matter if KG winds up in Phoenix. Duncan has owned him for his entire career, and a change of address won't change that.
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