Official Dallas Mavericks Offseason Speculation Thread

[JMarkJohns]

I know he says he's gone, and a credit to him, he did refrain from posting under his da_suns_fan moniker for two straight months from 1-31-08 through 3-31-08, but the fact that this break coincided with a time of the season when the Suns struggled most just goes to show you what kind of fan he truly is. Now that things are looking up again, he's here to rub other fanbase's noses in what he feels is their obvious stenches.

That's really freakin' weak. At this point it doesn't even matter that I mega-loathe you as a poster. I'd call anyone out for antics like this.

Where do you come off? What gives you the right to show up for the good, but hide from the bad? Why should you be allowed to dole out medicine when you never show up to take your own?

You're a weak sister post. Just thought you should know.

[JamStone]

I've read reports that Donald Sterling has serious man love for Corey Maggette and that's why he's still with the Clippers when both Dunleavy and Baylor tried to ship him off in the past. I think it would take a serious blockbuster trade where the Clips got way more than equal value for Sterling not to veto it. Don't believe Jason Terry and Brandon Bass is such a deal.

Gerald Wallace would be difficult to acquire as well. Charlotte is bad but Gerald Wallace is "the guy" there and a lot of people are starting to believe has has superstar ability. I don't see anything Dallas has short of Dirk Nowitzki that could pry Gerald Wallace from the Bobcats.

[monosylab1k]

I've read reports that Donald Sterling has serious man love for Corey Maggette and that's why he's still with the Clippers when both Dunleavy and Baylor tried to ship him off in the past. I think it would take a serious blockbuster trade where the Clips got way more than equal value for Sterling not to veto it. Don't believe Jason Terry and Brandon Bass is such a deal.

Maybe so, but Maggette can opt out of his contract after this season. If it's a case of doing a sign-n-trade or losing him for nothing, they might go for the trade. Especially considering they're already going to lose Brand.

Not saying Terry/Bass is the best trade available, but I think it's a decent deal if you weight in Bass' upside.

[Findog]

Gerald Wallace would be difficult to acquire as well. Charlotte is bad but Gerald Wallace is "the guy" there and a lot of people are starting to believe has has superstar ability. I don't see anything Dallas has short of Dirk Nowitzki that could pry Gerald Wallace from the Bobcats.

Josh wants out of Dallas supposedly and the Bobcats would love to bring home a Carolina native son for marketing purposes. That's been the proposed trade.

[Findog]

And Wallace is better than Josh, but not by much. If this is about a change of scenery or off the court considerations, it's pretty close to equal value.

[monosylab1k]

And Wallace is better than Josh, but not by much. If this is about a change of scenery or off the court considerations, it's pretty close to equal value.

Actually their numbers are pretty comparable, in fact Josh's are better in a lot of areas that I didn't expect, like rebounding. And Hollinger doesn't have good things to say about Wallace's defense. It seems he's a big steal/block guy but really can't play straight up defense at all.

I really don't see why we should have to "sweeten the deal" any. Josh for Gerald straight up is a bigger risk for us than for the Bobcats.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Actually their numbers are pretty comparable, in fact Josh's are better in a lot of areas that I didn't expect, like rebounding. And Hollinger doesn't have good things to say about Wallace's defense. It seems he's a big steal/block guy but really can't play straight up defense at all.

I really don't see why we should have to "sweeten the deal" any. Josh for Gerald straight up is a bigger risk for us than for the Bobcats.

Wow that's suprsing to me because Wallace looks like a straight up nasty, intense defensive player to me. Well, I guess looks can be deceiving...

[JamStone]

Gerald Wallace is younger and cheaper, bigger, taller, stronger and plays elite level defense. Wallace is definitely better, and it's more than just a little bit better. Better bargain. While bringing him home to Carolina could be a factor, it would be more of a factor if all other things were equal. Plus, they already have native sons on that team. They could always sign Jay Williams. At this point, the Bobcats need to make changes or additions to the point guard position and in the front court. Changing swingmen isn't a primary concern for that team. I think they like J-Rich and Gerald Wallace as their starting wing players.

[JamStone]

Actually their numbers are pretty comparable, in fact Josh's are better in a lot of areas that I didn't expect, like rebounding. And Hollinger doesn't have good things to say about Wallace's defense. It seems he's a big steal/block guy but really can't play straight up defense at all.

I really don't see why we should have to "sweeten the deal" any. Josh for Gerald straight up is a bigger risk for us than for the Bobcats.

Gerald Wallace's rebounding numbers dipped this year as he was asked to play more on the perimeter. I still think his defense is at an elite level. He does as good a job as anyone on the bigger, stronger small forwards like LeBron James and Paul Pierce.

I don't see how it's a bigger risk for the Bobcats. Again, Wallace is younger and cheaper as well as overall a better player.

[monosylab1k]

Gerald Wallace is younger and cheaper, bigger, taller, stronger and plays elite level defense.

well actually Wallace is listed at 6-7, 215 while Howard is 6-7, 210. Wallace is 25 while Howard is 27 so age isn't a huge difference. Howard's also making only $2 million more per season, it's not some huge difference there either. And not saying he's the ultimate expert, but Hollinger disagrees about Wallace's defense.

I don't think Wallace is as superior a player to Howard as you're saying, but I can see why the Bobcats might rather have Gerald.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Gerald Wallace is younger and cheaper, bigger, taller, stronger and plays elite level defense. Wallace is definitely better, and it's more than just a little bit better. Better bargain. While bringing him home to Carolina could be a factor, it would be more of a factor if all other things were equal. Plus, they already have native sons on that team. They could always sign Jay Williams. At this point, the Bobcats need to make changes or additions to the point guard position and in the front court. Changing swingmen isn't a primary concern for that team. I think they like J-Rich and Gerald Wallace as their starting wing players.

I don't think Gerald Wallace is THAT much better of a player than Josh Howard. But it is some of his qualities we need on the team, he has a good shot selection, he attacks the rim fearlessly, he's athletic and he's not going to back down defensively.

[Findog]

Gerald Wallace is younger and cheaper, bigger, taller, stronger and plays elite level defense. Wallace is definitely better, and it's more than just a little bit better. Better bargain. While bringing him home to Carolina could be a factor, it would be more of a factor if all other things were equal. Plus, they already have native sons on that team. They could always sign Jay Williams. At this point, the Bobcats need to make changes or additions to the point guard position and in the front court. Changing swingmen isn't a primary concern for that team. I think they like J-Rich and Gerald Wallace as their starting wing players.

Wallace is two years younger, cheaper but not by much, he has a couple inches and about 20 lbs on Josh, scores like 1 or 2 points more per game, gets two more assists per game, a couple more steals. Josh rebounds more and shoots a better FG% behind and in front of the arc. There's not a huge gulf between them, if anything, the age factor is the bulk of what makes Wallace more desirable.

[monosylab1k]

he has a couple inches and about 20 lbs on Josh.

NBA.com and ESPN.com have different numbers on Josh. One says 6-5 while the other says 6-7. I've always seen him listed at 6-7 so what's the deal there?

every site i'm searching says he's 6-7, except for NBA.com

[JamStone]

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-...raft=100&sort=

Player - height without shoes / height with shoes

Josh Howard - 2003 6' 5.25" / 6' 6.5"

Always thought of Howard around 6-6 and they added an inch because he was primarily playing small forward. But, just like most players in the league, his height has been rounded up "with" shoes.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Josh wants out of Dallas supposedly and the Bobcats would love to bring home a Carolina native son for marketing purposes. That's been the proposed trade.

does Josh want out of Dallas so he can be "The Man" a la' Shawn Marion?

[Findog]

Wake Forest lists him at 6'6.

[Findog]

does Josh want out of Dallas so he can be "The Man" a la' Shawn Marion?

Supposedly has something to do with Mark Cuban. Josh isn't an idiot like Marion.

[JamStone]

Wallace is two years younger, cheaper but not by much, he has a couple inches and about 20 lbs on Josh, scores like 1 or 2 points more per game, gets two more assists per game, a couple more steals. Josh rebounds more and shoots a better FG% behind and in front of the arc. There's not a huge gulf between them, if anything, the age factor is the bulk of what makes Wallace more desirable.

Josh Howard rebounds more this season. Gerald Wallace is a very solid rebounder whose rebounding numbers dipped this year, plus he plays with a guy that is pretty much an automatic 11 rebound a game guy in Okafor. Josh is definitely the better shooter as Gerald Wallace has worked to improve his shooting, but career wise inside the arc, Gerald Wallace is a .478 FG shooter while Josh is a career .461 FG shooter.

I wouldn't say there's a huge gulf between the two. But, I certainly think there's enough so that a straight up trade player for player between the two would not be a good trade for the Bobcats.

[monosylab1k]

Not saying intangibles of this sort mean a ton, but you can factor in that Josh Howard has been a key contributor to a team that went to the NBA Finals, while Gerald Wallace has always contributed to a team that's merely trying to be the least ty team in the NBA.

[JamStone]

Yeah, I hear you. I'm just giving you my opinion and one that is likely closer to how the Bobcats would feel about such a proposed trade.

[Findog]

I like Wallace, but the Mavs are basically getting Josh Howard with a spoiler and a sunroof if they trade for him. They're much better off using him to get a low-post scorer.

[monosylab1k]

I like Wallace, but the Mavs are basically getting Josh Howard with a spoiler and a sunroof if they trade for him. They're much better off using him to get a low-post scorer.

Yeah but who? Eddy Curry has been mentioned but nobody seems to be too keen on him, which makes me wonder just how serious Mavs fans are about getting a low post scorer.

I just think Wallace's offensive skills mesh better with Kidd, that's why I'd like him.

[Findog]

Yeah but who? Eddy Curry has been mentioned but nobody seems to be too keen on him, which makes me wonder just how serious Mavs fans are about getting a low post scorer.

I just think Wallace's offensive skills mesh better with Kidd, that's why I'd like him.

I'll take Eddy Curry as long as they get another C to play defense for 15-20 mpg. Curry is charmin' soft on one end of the floor.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Yo this is for all the people who call dirk soft:

Dirk's day-to-day
3:16 PM Tue, Apr 01, 2008 |
Tim MacMahon
Big Ed Sefko reports that Dirk worked out with other players for about 45 minutes today. The reigning MVP is now listed as day-to-day.

Pure speculation here, but I'll be surprised if Dirk (left high ankle and knee sprains) doesn't suit up and try to gut it out when the Warriors come to town tomorrow night.

UPDATE: A news release from the Mavs confirms Dirk's day-to-day status and also lists Jerry Stackhouse (groin) as day-to-day.

[Findog]

Aren't we all day-to-day?

Wackity Schmackity Doo.

Thanks, I'll be here all week folks.