Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[dbestpro]

That's what I thought but wasn't sure. Since he isn't getting the supermax from the Spurs, it's now figuring out the best salary+endorsement formula.

It becomes a sign and trade.

[Pavlov]

It becomes a sign and trade.

I don't think there is as much advantage in that anymore as there used to be.

[baseline bum]

It becomes a sign and trade.

I don't think there is as much advantage in that anymore as there used to be.

There is no advantage whatsoever to sign and trades any more. Sign and trades are capped at 4 years and 4.5% raises just like outright free agent signings without any kind of Bird Rights.

[rjv]

I love it when posters project their biases on to NBA players.

Why of course these multimillionaire elite athletes would think just like I do!

[Hoops Czar]

I love it when posters project their biases on to NBA players.

Why of course these multimillionaire elite athletes would think just like I do!

My response to the Gasol contract...

Wait until RC hands out those new cookie contracts to Kyle and Tony next offseason. There won't be enough money leftover for a second star let alone a third. Maybe Leonard has already told the franchise He's moving on in 2019.

[tbdog]

Because this is the unofficial offseason thread - any news on Danny Green contract opt out clause?

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There was something about a no-trade clause, also, which the Spurs refused. , the GSW refused to give one to Curry last summer. Who TF does Kawhi think he is?

He's not getting $213M. Only the Spurs could give it to him, and they won't. There is no trust left at all. The Spurs think it's a ploy to get the SuperMax, and THEN force a trade. The group thinks that without the no-trade clause the Spurs will trade him next summer, at first opportunity for a haul, since the SuperMax locks him in for 5 years.

Well before this nonsense, the Spurs would've NEVER traded that fool. So just going with the notion that an offer of a supermax was even offered, if they are afraid he will be dumped elsewhere, they shouldn't have let it get to this point.

[Hoops Czar]

There was something about a no-trade clause, also, which the Spurs refused. , the GSW refused to give one to Curry last summer. Who TF does Kawhi think he is?

He's not getting $213M. Only the Spurs could give it to him, and they won't. There is no trust left at all. The Spurs think it's a ploy to get the SuperMax, and THEN force a trade. The group thinks that without the no-trade clause the Spurs will trade him next summer, at first opportunity for a haul, since the SuperMax locks him in for 5 years.

They don't or Kawhi doesn't want it?

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He has $79M reasons to sign the DPE or super max (the amount he'd lose if he's traded, but not to L.A., then signs their in '19). He's also in the process of having houses built in San Antonio for his mom and him and we don't know how recently he told Green, his closest confidant on the team, he'd prefer to stay, but he apparently did so. It also echoes what his sister said around that time. Both basically hinted that he'd do so if offered the DPE or super max.

Up until his representation leaking his supposed trade request to the media last Friday, there was also a sense from multiple reports, that things were inching towards reconciliation. The request came after the Wojnarowski story came out about the Spurs' unwillingness to immediately offer it.

The only way to make sense of all this, is that it's a leverage play.

I keep seeing this claim. Is this just an unsubstantiated rumor that has legs because Spurfan wants it to be true or is there actual saucery for it.

[SpursDynasty85]

I keep seeing this claim. Is this just an unsubstantiated rumor that has legs because Spurfan wants it to be true or is there actual saucery for it.

Houses that are contracted to be built could have been made 12 months before ground ever breaks. Texas home market is hot right now meaning it won't be a problem to sell it more than likely or he probably put a 25k to 50k security deposit on it of he decided not to buy it when it finishes (chump change). All this tension and going back and forth pretty much signals a break up is my guess. The reconciliation rumor had a lot weaker legs than this latest one.

[Pavlov]

My response to the Gasol contract...

Yes, your projection is consistent.

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• Mills and Gasol contracts
• BP3 and Laughverne replacing two rotation players in Simmons and Dedmon
• destroying the cap for the next three years eating into Kawhi's prime
• resting key players in meaningful games against elite compe ion because Pop is afraid to show his hand and he wants to prove to the networks who's running the show.
• Pop lauding his opponents to death with poor jokes and childish behavior every time he gets thoroughly out coached.

Other than that, not much.

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Rudy Gay is only here because he was coming off a career threatening injury.

Players are cool with other players making money so long as they stay a contender. If you were in a dead end job with low pay and minimal chance for advancement but were offered a better job with roughly the same pay but with more flexibility and many chances of advancement, would you stay in your dead end job?

Pop coaches like he doesn't give a half the time. You don't that at ude eventually rubs off onto the players?

You know I was just thinking to myself the other day, if there's one attribute about Pop's coaching style that is most evident, it's that he just doesn't give a . I mean, when is the last time you saw that guy get in someone's face, or call a timeout to bench a player for a missed defensive assignment within the first minute of a game?

I swear, that guy just checked the eff out...amirite?

[weebo]

I can't wait to get this chicken off the Spurs

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Houses that are contracted to be built could have been made 12 months before ground ever breaks. Texas home market is hot right now meaning it won't be a problem to sell it more than likely or he probably put a 25k to 50k security deposit on it of he decided not to buy it when it finishes (chump change). All this tension and going back and forth pretty much signals a break up is my guess. The reconciliation rumor had a lot weaker legs than this latest one.

Right. But is there actual saucery that he or she or both are building new houses? I see this everywhere...here, reddit, twitter, etc. Yet I've never seen anyone sauce it to anyone other than some SA sportstalk show host.

I call BS.

[spurschamps99030507]

New story: The Cavs are not actively shopping Kevin Love heading into Thursday’s draft, multiple sources tell ESPN

CLEVELAND -- The Cavaliers are not actively shopping All-Star forward Kevin Love heading into Thursday's NBA draft, multiple sources told ESPN on Wednesday. Furthermore, regardless of what decision LeBron James makes about his future in Cleveland, the Cavs have interest in keeping Love next season, sources said.
Love, who will turn 30 in September, averaged 17.6 points on 45.8 percent shooting (41.5 percent from 3) and 9.3 rebounds in 59 games during the regular season for the Cavs, missing a chunk of time with a hand injury.
His numbers dipped in the postseason to 14.9 points on 39.2 percent shooting (34 percent from 3) and 10.2 rebounds, as Cleveland advanced to the NBA Finals for the fourth consecutive year.

Heading into the playoffs, Love -- who was offered to the Indiana Pacers in a trade for Paul George last June -- acknowledged that it could be his last go-round with the team that traded its No. 1 pick, Andrew Wiggins, to the Minnesota Timberwolves for him in 2014, ushering in the most successful era in team history.
It could be my last run, too, so you just never know," Love told ESPN in April. "The unknown is something that you try to just put out of your hands for a certain amount of time. But, just go out there and lose yourself in it and everything will fall where it needs to."
Cleveland, owners of the No. 8 pick in the draft, will make the selection without knowing James' intention for next season, multiple sources told ESPN. James is currently on vacation with his family, sources said.

The Cavs are entering into the draft with the intention of making a selection that they will keep on their team next season. There is interest in finding a young playmaker to add to their veteran core and Cleveland believes it will have the opportunity to choose from an available player pool that will include the likes Collin Sexton, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Trae Young, Michael Porter Jr., Kevin Knox, Mikal Bridges, and others.

Cleveland has made a call to inquire about the availability of San Antonio Spursforward Kawhi Leonard, but the franchise does not believe it has the realistic assets to convince the Spurs to deal them the former Finals MVP considering what other teams on the market can offer.
After the Cavs' Game 4 loss to the Golden State Warriors in the Finals, Love addressed the uncertainty surrounding his and James' futures with the team.
"Obviously, I'd love to play with LeBron the rest of my career, but that will be a choice that he makes," Love said.
He was then asked if he thought the Finals sweep could end up being his last game in a Cleveland uniform.

"Anything is possible," Love said. "People have been saying that for the past four years. I knew that question would come. But I like to be here. I've always said that. Always wanted to win here."
Love has two years remaining on his contract with the Cavs worth approximately $49.6 million, however he has a player option for the final year of the deal in the 2019-20 season.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23856392/cleveland-cavaliers-covet-kevin-love-next-season

[Hoops Czar]

You know I was just thinking to myself the other day, if there's one attribute about Pop's coaching style that is most evident, it's that he just doesn't give a . I mean, when is the last time you saw that guy get in someone's face, or call a timeout to bench a player for a missed defensive assignment within the first minute of a game?

I swear, that guy just checked the eff out...amirite?

Well, he did send home Murray from Summer league for reasons unbeknown when he was in desperate need of development. Then he played him almost 22 Minutes a game during the regular season and another 19 minutes per during the playoffs. That's what you call some serious ass backward punishment that punished the team more than it did Murray. So there's that!

[bklynspursfan]

• Mills and Gasol contracts
• BP3 and Laughverne replacing two rotation players in Simmons and Dedmon
• destroying the cap for the next three years eating into Kawhi's prime
• resting key players in meaningful games against elite compe ion because Pop is afraid to show his hand and he wants to prove to the networks who's running the show.
• Pop lauding his opponents to death with poor jokes and childish behavior every time he gets thoroughly out coached.

Other than that, not much.

Pop resting guys is new? Not quite...

And what you call "childish behavior", is also not new. So no those haven't changed.

Mills/Pau, it's been beaten to death the purpose behind them, yet many still don't get it.

So really the only thing that changed is Simmons/Dedmon leaving, both moves those guys chose to make

[Hoops Czar]

Pop resting guys is new? Not quite...

And what you call "childish behavior", is also not new. So no those haven't changed.

Mills/Pau, it's been beaten to death the purpose behind them, yet many still don't get it.

So really the only thing that changed is Simmons/Dedmon leaving, both moves those guys chose to make

Yes, two more guys who chose not to play for the Spurs. I suppose you could say that's not new either.

But please, enlighten me as to the purpose behind the Mills/Pau signings. You're right, I don't get it.

[bklynspursfan]

Yes, two more guys who chose not to play for the Spurs. I suppose you could say that's not new either.

But please, enlighten me as to the purpose behind the Mills/Pau signings. You're right, I don't get it.

I mean Pau opted out to give us flexibility in FA right. Once they struck out in FA, he got similar $, but spread out.

Patty would've likely gotten this deal after the finals , but had the shoulder injury (which he played thru in the finals) so he took less, when surely someone could've given him more after his hot shooting. This was more of a payback situation. It wouldn't have been fussed about as much if he didn't have such a down year shooting.

[spurraider21]

I mean Pau opted out to give us flexibility in FA right. Once they struck out in FA, he got similar $, but spread out.

Patty would've likely gotten this deal after the finals , but had the shoulder injury (which he played thru in the finals) so he took less, when surely someone could've given him more after his hot shooting. This was more of a payback situation. It wouldn't have been fussed about as much if he didn't have such a down year shooting.

yeah, pau opted out to give "flexibility" so PATFO could fit their legs behind their head as he ed them for 3/48

[SpursDynasty85]

yeah, pau opted out to give "flexibility" so PATFO could fit their legs behind their head as he ed them for 3/48

Yep. Should've used that money on dedmon and Simmons instead.

[bklynspursfan]

yeah, pau opted out to give "flexibility" so PATFO could fit their legs behind their head as he ed them for 3/48

Had CP0 came, it would've been worth it. I don't agree with it necessarily, but whatever

[bklynspursfan]

Yep. Should've used that money on dedmon and Simmons instead.

Can't use it on guys who want to leave

[Leetonidas]

This got still hasnt been traded yet? Get this autistic bum tf off my team already