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NO didn't take a direct hit from Ivan....it was nearer Mobile than NO.
No, it wasn't.
The original track had passing over Florida and turning immediately to north and making a direct impact on the Florida panhandle.
They (national hurricane center) predicted a Cat 3 storm at worst originally.
NO didn't take a direct hit from Ivan....it was nearer Mobile than NO.
hurricane force winds, 75 mph minimum, extending a radius of 100 miles from eye, moving at 13 mph.
That's 200 mi / 13 mi/h = 15 hours of hurricane force winds.
anything getting pounded for 15 hours at 75 - 150 mph windes aint gonna be worth .
Pat Robertson will soon be announcing that God sent this hurricane to punish NO for harboring a gay and lesbian community.
ok, there are more white folk out on the Alabama seawall than before. WTF?
Don't forget to fill up your gas tanks tonight, prices are expected to raise drastically tomorrow
Boutons, you say that in jest but I do think we'll see some crazy ass preachers hijack this catastrophe and use it as a preaching tool. Thats a damn shame.
Yes. My mom's friend does oil tank stuff. He called my mom and told everyone to fill up tonight because the oil fields in Louisisana are down. It is suppose to go up a dollar, maybe more.
I filled up to a full tank.
The New York Times
August 28, 2005
Hurricane Could Leave 1 Million Homeless
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 6:55 p.m. ET
When Hurricane Katrina hits New Orleans on Monday, it could turn one of America's most charming cities into a vast cesspool tainted with toxic chemicals, human waste and even coffins released by floodwaters from the city's legendary cemeteries.
Experts have warned for years that the levees and pumps that usually keep New Orleans dry have no chance against a direct hit by a Category 5 storm.
That's exactly what Katrina was as it churned toward the city. With top winds of 165 mph and the power to lift sea level by as much as 28 feet above normal, the storm threatened an environmental disaster of biblical proportions, one that could leave more than 1 million people homeless.
''All indications are that this is absolutely worst-case scenario,'' Ivor van Heerden, deputy director of the Louisiana State University Hurricane Center, said Sunday afternoon.
The center's latest computer simulations indicate that by Tuesday, vast swaths of New Orleans could be under water up to 30 feet deep. In the French Quarter, the water could reach 20 feet, easily submerging the district's iconic cast-iron balconies and bars.
Estimates predict that 60 percent to 80 percent of the city's houses will be destroyed by wind. With the flood damage, most of the people who live in and around New Orleans could be homeless.
''We're talking about in essence having -- in the continental United States -- having a refugee camp of a million people,'' van Heerden said.
Aside from Hurricane Andrew, which struck Miami in 1992, forecasters have no experience with Category 5 hurricanes hitting densely populated areas.
''Hurricanes rarely sustain such extreme winds for much time. However we see no obvious large-scale effects to cause a substantial weakening the system and it is expected that the hurricane will be of Category 4 or 5 intensity when it reaches the coast,'' National Hurricane Center meteorologist Richard Pasch said.
As they raced to put meteorological instruments in Katrina's path Sunday, wind engineers had little idea what their equipment would record.
''We haven't seen something this big since we started the program,'' said Kurt Gurley, a University of Florida engineering professor. He works for the Florida Coastal Monitoring Program, which is in its seventh year of making detailed measurements of hurricane wind conditions using a set of mobile weather stations.
Experts have warned about New Orleans' vulnerability for years, chiefly because Louisiana has lost more than a million acres of coastal wetlands in the past seven decades. The vast patchwork of swamps and bayous south of the city serves as a buffer, partially absorbing the surge of water that a hurricane pushes ashore.
Experts have also warned that the ring of high levees around New Orleans, designed to protect the city from floodwaters coming down the Mississippi, will only make things worse in a powerful hurricane. Katrina is expected to push a 28-foot storm surge against the levees. Even if they hold, water will pour over their tops and begin filling the city as if it were a sinking canoe.
After the storm passes, the water will have nowhere to go.
In a few days, van Heerden predicts, emergency management officials are going to be wondering how to handle a giant stagnant pond contaminated with building debris, coffins, sewage and other hazardous materials.
''We're talking about an incredible environmental disaster,'' van Heerden said.
He puts much of the blame for New Orleans' dire situation on the very levee system that is designed to protect southern Louisiana from Mississippi River floods.
Before the levees were built, the river would top its banks during floods and wash through a maze of bayous and swamps, dropping fine-grained silt that nourished plants and kept the land just above sea level.
The levees ''have literally starved our wetlands to death'' by directing all of that precious silt out into the Gulf of Mexico, van Heerden said.
It has been 40 years since New Orleans faced a hurricane even comparable to Katrina. In 1965, Hurricane Betsy, a Category 3 storm, submerged some parts of the city to a depth of seven feet.
Since then, the Big Easy has had nothing but near misses. In 1998, Hurricane Georges headed straight for New Orleans, then swerved at the last minute to strike Mississippi and Alabama. Hurricane Lili blew herself out at the mouth of the Mississippi in 2002. And last year's Hurricane Ivan obligingly curved to the east as it came ashore, barely grazing a grateful city.
* Copyright 2005 The Associated Press
Yes. My mom's friend does oil tank stuff. He called my mom and told everyone to fill up tonight because the oil fields in Louisisana are down. It is suppose to go up a dollar, maybe more.
I filled up to a full tank.
Thanks for telling me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going now>
Battle of New Orleans
Music and lyrics by Jimmy Driftwood: Jimmy Driftwood was a high school principal and history teacher who loved to sing, play instruments and write songs. Mr. Driftwood wrote many songs, all for the sole purpose of helping his students learn about this battle and other historical events. But this song turned out to be so popular that it won the 1959 Grammy Award for Song Of The Year (awarded in 1960 for musical accomplishments in 1959). Johnny Horton also won the 1959 Grammy Award for Best Country And Western Performance for his recording of this song. "The Battle of New Orleans," is about a battle in the War of 1812, and it became one of the biggest selling hits of 1959. Students might also be interested to know that there is a movie called "The Buccaneer" about the Battle of New Orleans. It is interesting to reflect on the fact that despite the turbulant early relationship between England and the American colonists, our two countries have long since been strongly united. The words were written to correspond with an old fiddle tune called "The 8th of January," which is the date of the famous "Battle of New Orleans".
Narrative by Jimmy Driftwood:
“After the Battle of New Orleans, which Andrew Jackson won on January the 8th eighteen and fifteen, the boys played the fiddle again that night, only they changed the name of it from the battle of a place in Ireland to the “Eighth of January”. Years passed and in about nineteen and forty-five an Arkansas school teacher slowed the tune down and put words to it and that song is The Battle Of New Orleans and I will try to sing it for you.” (*Note -- two minor revisions were made for classroom use)
The lyrics:
Well, in eighteen and fourteen we took a little trip
along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip.
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans,
And we caught the bloody British near the town of New Orleans.
We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin.
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
Well, I see'd Mars Jackson walkin down the street
talkin’ to a pirate by the name of Jean Lafayette [pronounced La-feet]
He gave Jean a drink that he brung from Tennessee
and the pirate said he’d help us drive the British in the sea.
The French said Andrew, you’d better run,
for Packingham’s a comin’ with a bullet in his gun.
Old Hickory said he didn’t give a dang,
he’s gonna whip the britches off of Colonel Packingham.
We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin.
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
Well, we looked down the river and we see'd the British come,
and there must have been a hundred of 'em beatin' on the drum.
They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring
while we stood by our cotton bales and didn't say a thing.
Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise
if we didn't fire a musket til we looked 'em in the eyes.
We held our fire til we see'd their faces well,
then we opened up with squirrel guns and really gave a yell.
We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin.
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
Well, we fired our cannon til the barrel melted down,
so we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round.
We filled his head with cannon balls and powdered his behind,
and when they tetched the powder off, the gator lost his mind.
We’ll march back home but we’ll never be content
till we make Old Hickory the people’s President.
And every time we think about the bacon and the beans,
we’ll think about the fun we had way down in New Orleans.
We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin,
But there wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
Well, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast the hounds couldn't catch 'em
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin.
But there wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
That would be smart.
Manny, where'd you get 12,000 in the Superdome from? I thought I just heard that there's still a four hour wait to get in.
Thats how many CNN was saying they have in there right now. There are still more trying to get in.
OK. That local feed I'm watching showed a shot of the Poydras St entrance with a line wrapping around the building.
They also showed a Bourbon St bar full of idiots screaming at the camera.
I just heard on the Weather Channel that they were tryin to get in 10,000 or some like that.
people inside and still waiting outside total 12,000...I don't think they've stated exactly how many are in already.
Biloxi will have people arrested out on the streets after 9PM.
It sucks hardcore that all these people are going to die. It's going to dwarf the WTC tragedy most likely.
This does look like must see TV, though. Two questions:
What time should I start watching?
What is the best channel to watch?
Thanks.
Weather Channel?It sucks hardcore that all these people are going to die. It's going to dwarf the WTC tragedy most likely.
This does look like must see TV, though. Two questions:
What time should I start watching?
What is the best channel to watch?
Thanks.
CNN and FoxNews have been running coverage nonstop...and the local news feed someone posted is good to watch too.
That would be smart.
I'm back!
I bought my gas at Sam's because I get the membership discount.
I was just telling my room mate that my gas only cost me $2.25 a gallon when I realized what a sad statement that is.
Late tonight and most of the day tomorrow.It sucks hardcore that all these people are going to die. It's going to dwarf the WTC tragedy most likely.
This does look like must see TV, though. Two questions:
What time should I start watching?
What is the best channel to watch?
Thanks.
Weather Channel
The local feed is pretty awesome
Thats just a theory, but one that holds some watching. The storm appears to be weakening a bit now, but because there really is nothing to weaken it, I think it will regain strength again later tonight.
Maybe it is weakening! I know there are plenty of people praying that that is the case
If I read the last VORTEX message correctly, the eye is "open" to the SW. That could indicate an eye wall replacement cycle begining!!! That would be AWESOME news.
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