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    The commentators on my local radio stations and most people calling in are squarely AGAINST letting them in. Never have I heard such vitriolic on the radio against Obama (with some against Obamacare too). Hopefully they're all calling their representatives and senators. Bill Nelson better vote for the passed House bill.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88qV298bL1M

    Robust interview and biometric analysis - LOL
    Talk radio is dominated by conservatives.

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    This wasn't Rush, Hannity types - local commentators from 8 to noon - traffic, news, etc.

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    This wasn't Rush, Hannity types - local commentators from 8 to noon - traffic, news, etc.
    Our local commentators on talk radio are conservatives.

    I occasionally listen to Rush, Savage, Levin, etc and its all basically the same show. They talk about the same thing, have the same criticisms, same ideas, etc. Pretty sad tbh.

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    Our local commentators on talk radio are conservatives.

    I occasionally listen to Rush, Savage, Levin, etc and its all basically the same show. They talk about the same thing, have the same criticisms, same ideas, etc. Pretty sad tbh.
    All are for profit rabble rousers - an industry that's grown exponentially under Obama.

    Mark Levin, who had authored two books prior to Obama taking office (one of them a dog lovers story of joy and anguish ) has written 4 books in the last 4 years.

    Emo conservatives lap this up.

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    The commentators on my local radio stations and most people calling in are squarely AGAINST letting them in. Never have I heard such vitriolic on the radio against Obama (with some against Obamacare too). Hopefully they're all calling their representatives and senators. Bill Nelson better vote for the passed House bill.
    Obviously mass vitriol is indicative of sound judgement.

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    San Diego taking in refugees despite GOP pushback

    Thursday’s House vote to require more stringent screening of Syrian and Iraqi refugees being admitted into the United States comes at a time when California and San Diego County continue to accept some of the highest numbers of refugees in the country.


    San Diego admitted 51 Syrian refugees in the 2015 fiscal year, about quadruple the number of Syrians admitted into the county in 2014, according to the Department of Social Services Refugee Programs Bureau. None were admitted in 2013, and only one Syrian refugee was admitted in 2012. California admitted 28 Syrian refugees in 2014, compared with 3 in 2013, according to the bureau.


    Though the numbers are small, especially compared with other immigrant groups, the growth reflects the surge in the number of Syrians fleeing their war-torn country. An estimated six million refugees have left the country since the Syrian civil war began.


    San Diego County admitted 924 Iraqi refugees in fiscal 2015 and 1,705 in 2014. California took in 2,676 Iraqi refugees in 2014 and 3,684 in 2013.


    Staff at local refugee resettlement organizations estimate San Diego County will admit a few hundred Syrians in the year to come, though a precise estimate is unavailable.


    Governors in nearly half of the states have said they will refuse to assist Syrian refugees for fear of admitting terrorists into the United States, but Gov. Jerry Brown said California will continue taking in refugees whose backgrounds have been thoroughly checked.


    “I intend to work closely with the president so that he can both uphold America’s traditional role as a place of asylum, but also ensure that anyone seeking refuge in America is fully vetted in a sophisticated and utterly reliable way,” he said in a statement.


    Jim DeHarpporte, regional director of Catholic Relief Services West, said the public should “wait and observe the process” before reacting. DeHarpporte said there’s a thorough vetting resettlement process in place, which can take up to two years.


    “These are the victims of ISIS and radical fundamentalists,” he said. “We feel that we need to protect them. This is the tradition of our country and as a Catholic organization this is what we stand for.”


    Individuals must pe ion the United Nations for refugee status. If they’re cleared, applicants are connected with a country or countries willing to accept them. Resettlement cases in the U.S. are handled by several national agencies that determine the best placement. If refugees have family members in a particular area of the country, for example, they’re likely to be sent there.


    In San Diego County, the International Rescue Committee, Catholic Charities, the Alliance for African Assistance and Jewish Family Service of San Diego are sanctioned to resettle refugees.


    Faith leaders and community activists in San Diego, at a press conference Thursday led by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, condemned the House vote.


    “We really need to review our intentions and clarify what direction we want to take (as a country). If we remember, right after 9/11 we jumped to conclusions, we arrested people, we detained individuals, ripped off their civil rights and liberties,” said Hanif Mohebi, the organization’s executive director.


    “We used fear, but that only weakens our own ins ution, our own core values, our own cons ution. Doing this can only give a wrong message to the masses.”


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    Repugs are fantastic politicians, fantastically corrupt and anti-American.

    They really know how to rouse the hate, paranoia, lowest common denominators in their rabble base and dominate the national dialog.

    Of course, totally NON productive for the country, no progress, no problems solved, just tending their ignorant, stupid, low-education, low-wage slave state, red state base.

    Repugs, as hatchet men for BigCorp/VRWC/1%, are a huge reason why America is ed and un able.

    (still waiting for anybody to prove me wrong on that point, esp how to defeat the Repugs and begin to un America)
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    Meanwhile, in Crazytown...

    http://www.npr.org/2015/11/19/456502...m_content=2046

    Tennessee Lawmaker Calls For National Guard To Round Up Syrian Refugees


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    Meanwhile, in Crazytown...

    http://www.npr.org/2015/11/19/456502...m_content=2046

    Tennessee Lawmaker Calls For National Guard To Round Up Syrian Refugees
    The French have their "Droits de l'Homme" for human beings.

    The fabricated Americans have their Bill of Rights for American citizens only, other are sub-human with no rights.

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    Those who support resettlement apparently can cherry pick governmental-effectiveness.

    Refugee screening? Sure, the government can effectively screen.

    Assessing the risk of terrorism from incoming refugees? The government cannot or has not effectively assessed the risk.

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    The Farce Awakens

    Erick Erickson, the editor in chief of the website RedState.com, is a serious power in right-wing circles. Speechifying at RedState’s annual gathering is a rite of passage for aspiring Republican politicians, and Mr. Erickson made headlines this year when he disinvited Donald Trump from the festivities.

    So it’s worth paying attention to what Mr. Erickson says. And as you might guess, he doesn’t think highly of President Obama’s an errorism policies.


    Still, his response to the attack in Paris was a bit startling. The French themselves are making a point of staying calm, indeed of going out to cafesto show that they refuse to be intimidated. But Mr.
    Erickson declared on his website that he won’t be going to see the new “Star Wars” movie on opening day, because “there are no metal detectors at American theaters.”

    It’s a bizarre reaction — but when you think about it, it’s part of a larger pattern. These days, panic attacks after something bad happens are the rule rather than the exception, at least on one side of the political divide.

    Consider first the reaction to the Paris attacks. Lightsabers aside, are Mr. Erickson’s fears any sillier than those of the dozens of governors — almost all Republicans — who want to ban Syrian refugees from their states?

    Mr. Obama certainly thinks they’re being ridiculous; he mocked politicians who claim that they’re so tough that they could stare down America’s enemies, but are “scared of widows and orphans.” (He was probably talking in particular about Chris Christie, who has said that he even wants to ban young children.) Again, the contrast with France, where President François Hollande has reaffirmed the nation’s willingness to take in refugees, is striking.


    And it’s pretty hard to find anyone on that side of the aisle, even among seemingly respectable voices, showing the slightest hint of perspective. Jeb Bush, the erstwhile establishment candidate, wants to clamp down on accepting refugees unless “you can prove you’re a Christian.”

    The historian Niall Ferguson, a right-wing favorite, says the Paris attacks were exactly like the sack of Rome by the Goths. Hmm: Were ancient Romans back in the cafes a few days later?


    But we shouldn’t really be surprised, because we’ve seen this movie before (unless we were too scared to go to the theater). Remember the great Ebola scare of 2014? The threat of a pandemic, like the threat of a terrorist attack, was real. But it was greatly exaggerated, thanks in large part to hype from the same people now hyping the terrorist danger.


    What’s more, the supposed “solutions” were similar, too, in their combination of cruelty and stupidity. Does anyone remember Mr. Trump declaring that “the plague will start and spread” in America unless we immediately stopped all plane flights from infected countries? Or the fact that Mitt Romney took a similar position? As it turned out, public health officials knew what they were doing, and Ebola quickly came under control — but it’s unlikely that anyone on the right learned from the experience.


    What explains the modern right’s propensity for panic? Part of it, no doubt, is the familiar point that many bullies are also cowards.

    But I think it’s also linked to the apocalyptic mind-set that has developed among Republicans during the Obama years.


    Think about it. From the day Mr. Obama took office, his political foes have warned about imminent catastrophe.

    Fiscal crisis!

    Hyperinflation!

    Economic collapse, brought on by the scourge of health insurance!


    And nobody on the right dares point out the failure of the promised disasters to materialize, or suggest a more nuanced approach.


    Given this context, it’s only natural that the right would seize on a terrorist attack in France as proof that Mr. Obama has left America undefended and vulnerable.

    Ted Cruz, who has a real chance of becoming the Republican nominee, goes so far as to declare that the president “does not wish to defend this country.”

    The context also explains why Beltway insiders were so foolish when they imagined that the Paris attacks would deflate Donald Trump’s candidacy, that Republican voters would turn to establishment candidates who are serious about national security.


    Who, exactly, are these serious candidates? And why would the establishment, which has spent years encouraging the base to indulge its fears and reject nuance, now expect that base to understand the difference between tough talk and actual effectiveness?

    Sure enough, polling since the Paris attack suggests that Mr. Trump has actually gained ground.


    The point is that at this point
    panic is what the right is all about, and the Republican nomination will go to whoever can most effectively channel that panic. Will the same hold true in the general election?

    Stay tuned.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/20/op...a-pattern.html

    Krugman's talking about all you less chicken s, fellating your metallic penis surrogates, and all of you panicked less.

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    Cruz has no chance of becoming the Repub nominee. The establishment would prefer Rubio, Kaisch, Christie before Cruz who is HATED. They prefer Trump or even Hillary over Cruz.

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    the establishment may see its will undermined by the voters this time around. big money and the internet have attenuated the influence of the smoke-filled room.

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    Weird how this was a "huge concern" back in September, but after Paris, it's just GOP scaremongering.

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...iltrate-us-we/

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    a stopped watch is right twice a day -- far more often than broken-record catastrophists like James Clapper.

    lol The Moonie Times

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    Weird how this was a "huge concern" back in September, but after Paris, it's just GOP scaremongering.

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...iltrate-us-we/
    Were you hugely concerned back then, Darrin?

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    Weird how this was a "huge concern" back in September, but after Paris, it's just GOP scaremongering.

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...iltrate-us-we/
    While he added that U.S. authorities, who have so far allowed in fewer than 2,000 of Syria’s some 4 million refugees, have a “pretty aggressive” system for screening the backgrounds of those seeking entry into the United States, Mr. Clapper said he’s not so confident about the capabilities of some European nations.




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    Not sure when we decided anything of "concern" to our Intelligence agencies should be shut off entirely. That seems pretty cowardly. The very point of our intelligence agencies is to monitor and address things that are concerning.

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    Cruz is probably angling to be on the ticket should Trump get the nomination (for the conservative base). He's the only one who hasn't gotten into a spar with Trump.

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    Cruz is angling to take the Trump votes when he inevitably drops out of the race.

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    Cruz is angling to take the Trump votes when he inevitably drops out of the race.
    You think he's gonna drop out?

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    Yep, right now he's campaigning to be the biggest celebrity in the country. The business deals, books and TV gigs that will come out of this will make him more grotesquely wealthy than he's ever been. He has no interest in actually leading the nation.

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    The lack of self-awareness here is stunning. These are the exact arguments libcucks reject when used against gun control.
    No, actually it isn't even close to "exact". Strawman much?

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    The war against islamic fundamentalism and its extremist elements is a war of ideas, which is something that many conservatives fail to grasp.

    You can't fight a war of ideas with bullets.

    What you can do is solid actions that build up moral authority and respect, and taking in refugees does that in ways that all the bombs can't do.

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