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    Not sure what's "wow" about it.

    Are you now opposed to cops shooting to kill when they feel threatened?

    Do you not feel this person should go to prison?
    Shooting cos feeling threatened good now.

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    Shooting cos feeling threatened good now.

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    It is what it is. Did you change your mind about it too?

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    Fine. But the post you originally responded to was in an exchange about killings and shootings. Go back and read it.



    You don't need the hypothetical 200 billion population because we know the population of the United States. And our death rate still sucks. Again you're trying to change the discussion from federal response to state and local response. It's a separate discussion and one that I'm sure people would be happy to have. Doesn't make the federal response any less ty.
    Killings and shootings = violence. The aiming is suspect in Chicago.

    I said 20 billion. If total deaths is all that matters, why wouldn't a death rate of 1 per 100K still be just as relevant as 650 per 100K?

    In order to know the response was poor, you'd need to know what the death rate would be in a good response. You don't have a standard. That's my point. You're just using big numbers as smoke and mirrors and you're picking the most sensational numbers you can find to support your "orange man bad" narrative. The real facts are in the death rates per jurisdiction. You might as well blame the Surgeon General for the quality of care in your local clinics.

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    It doesn't have to be that charge. They could be sued for negligence, accessory to murder, aiding and abetting... the bar is so much lower in civil trials.

    This is why 97% of civil cases are either settled or dismissed without a trial.
    Accessory to murder isn't a civil cause of action.

    They would need to be vicariously liable for the shooter's actions to be liable for negligence. If they're not vicariously liable for the shooter's actions then they wouldn't have any liability at all. Do you know what vicarious liability is?

    Maybe Colorado is different, but I know that there's a very limited scope in Texas for when aiding and abetting applies in civil suits, and this is outside of it.

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    The USA isn't a jurisdiction now?

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    Not sure what's "wow" about it.

    Are you now opposed to people shooting to kill when they feel threatened?

    Do you not feel this person should go to prison?
    someone here never had a self defense class

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    Accessory to murder isn't a civil cause of action.

    They would need to be vicariously liable for the shooter's actions to be liable for negligence. If they're not vicariously liable for the shooter's actions then they wouldn't have any liability at all. Do you know what vicarious liability is?

    Maybe Colorado is different, but I know that there's a very limited scope in Texas for when aiding and abetting applies in civil suits, and this is outside of it.
    Pop and game 6?

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    It is what it is. Did you change your mind about it too?
    I haven't seen anything to equate this to the Trayvon Martin case.
    I know lefties are desperate for these kinds of parallels.
    I saw what was effectively an execution.
    But at least you're owning that your morals are utterly convenient.

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    I haven't seen anything to equate this to the Trayvon Martin case.
    I know lefties are desperate for these kinds of parallels.
    I saw what was effectively an execution.
    But at least you're owning that your morals are utterly convenient.
    They all did when they sold their souls for 1M.

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    I haven't seen anything to equate this to the Trayvon Martin case.
    I know lefties are desperate for these kinds of parallels.
    I saw what was effectively an execution.
    But at least you're owning that your morals are utterly convenient.
    Are you just leaving out the assault?

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    Are you just leaving out the assault?
    Who assaulted whom has not been shown on this board.

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    Killings and shootings = violence. The aiming is suspect in Chicago.
    More semantics. The topic was clear when you responded to it. Maybe you need a refresher.

    I said 20 billion. If total deaths is all that matters, why wouldn't a death rate of 1 per 100K still be just as relevant as 650 per 100K?

    In order to know the response was poor, you'd need to know what the death rate would be in a good response. You don't have a standard. That's my point. You're just using big numbers as smoke and mirrors and you're picking the most sensational numbers you can find to support your "orange man bad" narrative. The real facts are in the death rates per jurisdiction. You might as well blame the Surgeon General for the quality of care in your local clinics.
    What the are you even ranting about? I never said death rate doesn't matter, I provided you a link to death rates which shows that we are number 9 in the world out of 195 countries.

    Death rate absolutely matters. It doesn't help your argument.

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    Who assaulted who has not been shown on this board.
    It has. Your demanding muh video doesn't change anything.

    What's your theory that includes the guard's attacking the milliner first?

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    I'll answer it by stating how utterly stupid it is to compare a guy being chased by a mob and defending his life to this, which amounts to an execution morally if not criminally.
    Way to dodge the question. Still no answer.

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    Media put together a picture collage and stuff

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    Way to dodge the question. Still no answer.
    That was the answer, moron.

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    someone here never had a self defense class
    Nope, never needed one. I don't see what that has to do with the conservative standard that shooters are justified in killing people they are threatened by.

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    Media put together a picture collage and stuff
    What's your theory that includes the guard's attacking the milliner first?

    Step up.

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    What's your theory that includes the guard's attacking the milliner first?
    I haven't jumped to any conclusions on who initiated what. You have. Moar convenience is all.

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    Nope, never needed one. I don't see what that has to do with the conservative standard that shooters are justified in killing people they are threatened by.
    DMC trying to big time his self defense course.

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    I haven't jumped to any conclusions on who initiated what. You have. Moar convenience is all.
    Of course you've concluded the guard struck the milliner first.

    It's your legal theory.

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    That was the answer, moron.
    No, it wasn't. I asked you why all of a sudden it matters to conservatives that a law was broken prior to the incident that occurred.

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    I haven't seen anything to equate this to the Trayvon Martin case.
    I know lefties are desperate for these kinds of parallels.
    I saw what was effectively an execution.
    But at least you're owning that your morals are utterly convenient.
    You brought up Trayvon, not me. Where's the video of Trayvon attacking or provoking George Zimmerman?

    You can't seriously deny that you and other conservatives have spent hours in here rationalizing when other people have been shot in a confrontation.

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    They all did when they sold their souls for 1M.
    "They"

    I said no to the $1M

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    Of course you've concluded the guard struck the milliner first.

    It's your legal theory.
    Oh, look; Dumpster is desperately trying to put words in people's mouths.

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