Pelosi Says House Won’t Consider Bipartisan Infrastructure Plan without Reconciliation Proposal

[boutons_deux]

When did Republicans went back to being deficit hawks? Must've been this year at some point...

after they added $8T to the deficit, 2017-2020

[Winehole23]

the salt cap increase s the whole thing

now reportedly the second biggest expenditure in the bill. only 13% of US taxpayers qualify for this deduction.

smdh at Bolshevik Brandon and the hardcore socialist Dems

[CosmicCowboy]

Or the Trump tax scam

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[Winehole23]

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he's right, Rs pass tax cuts reflexively, without CBO scoring or bellyaching about how it gets paid for

[CosmicCowboy]

he's right, Rs pass tax cuts reflexively, without CBO scoring or bellyaching about how it gets paid for

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[Winehole23]

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[baseline bum]

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So you don't give two s about deficits

[CosmicCowboy]

So you don't give two s about deficits

I care a lot about deficits. I was simply pointing out the laughably obvious partisan whataboutism.

[Winehole23]

I care a lot about deficits. I was simply pointing out the laughably obvious partisan whataboutism.

One to one comparisons on the same issue -- Congressional spending and deficits -- isn't whataboutism.

[ChumpDumper]

I care a lot about deficits.

[Winehole23]

That GOP concern trolling about deficits vanishes during GOP administrations and revives when Dems regain office is absolutely germane to this conversation.

baseline bum got you dead to rights on that one, CC

[CosmicCowboy]

One to one comparisons on the same issue -- Congressional spending and deficits -- isn't whataboutism.

sure it is.

[CosmicCowboy]

That GOP concern trolling about deficits vanishes during GOP administrations and revives when Dems regain office is absolutely germane to this conversation.

baseline bum got you dead to rights on that one, CC

hypocrite

blue team does exactly the same thing

whataboutism

[Winehole23]

hypocrite

blue team does exactly the same thing

whataboutism

Does that make you being a deficit hypocrite ok? you were silent as a churchmouse from Jan 21, 2017 until inauguration day this year.

[CosmicCowboy]

I've bee talking deficits with both teams. You guys have given me for years for saying it ultimately leads to inflation.

easy enough to find from 2010:

Meh. It's the whole ing bunch of em...Bush included. Obama is just worse than the average bear.

[CosmicCowboy]

While Trump was President in 2018:

You think either party represents fiscal responsibility? Thats hilarious.

[CosmicCowboy]

Again while Trump was President:

I'm not saying that a certain level of deficit spending is bad. It's like chemotherapy for a sick economy. The question is, at what level does it eventually kill the patient?

[CosmicCowboy]

again from 2010:

I actually think we should raise taxes AND reduce spending so I'm apparently not a Republican OR a Democrat on this issue. There always has been short term ups and downs in the economy. The argument that we should run trillion dollar deficits now to "make things better" in the short term rings hollow with me. You young people are the ones that are really going to be hurt by this policy. The debt is reaching a point that it is simply unsustainable. I find it humorous that it's the old guys in the forum that are most against racking up national debt and the young guys that revile them for it.

[CosmicCowboy]

I am painfully aware that I can't control what congress and the President do so I just laugh about it when they do something that benefits me. Whether it's Obama golf carts or forgiven PPP gifts, or them passing the SALT deduction (that Trump took away) in 'build back better" that will save me a ton of money...I just roll with it so thanks guys...

[Will Hunting]

*ding*

You're admission that what I said is true is dully noted!

[CosmicCowboy]

You're admission that what I said is true is dully noted!

which was what?

[Will Hunting]

I am painfully aware that I can't control what congress and the President do so I just laugh about it when they do something that benefits me. Whether it's Obama golf carts or forgiven PPP gifts, or them passing the SALT deduction (that Trump took away) in 'build back better" that will save me a ton of money...I just roll with it so thanks guys...

To the extent BBB helps you that's not going to wondrously make me no longer support it , especially if it incentivizes you to rely more on alternative energy sources. That's the whole point.

[Will Hunting]

which was what?

That your party's beloved 2017 TCJA was a fiscal disaster in terms of the effect it had on the deficit.

[Will Hunting]

I care a lot about deficits.

Of course you do, it's a Democrat in the White House right now.

[Will Hunting]

FTR I would have preferred if BBB had more tax hikes resulting in a net positive affect on the deficit, if for no reason other than it'd be politically beneficial, but I give zero s about the right wing pearl clutching over deficits after Trump ran up an 8 trillion dollar credit card bill in just 1 term.