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Yeah that's the thread where they swear they can get Vassell and Castle easy. They're cruising for massive disappointment.
Educational thread on what the Jazz can do:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UtahJazz/s/qP4bBsytiE
Yeah that's the thread where they swear they can get Vassell and Castle easy. They're cruising for massive disappointment.
For smart teams, he’s more or less negative value…but for the right (bad/mediocre) franchise he could save a GM a job for a couple yrs or put butts in seats (Atl & Chi are always happy with just that)
There are quite a few bad teams with bad/insecure front offices, especially in the east with less compe ion. My fav maybe Atlanta.
Hawks are happy with mediocrity, don’t own their pick til ‘28, & maybe just dumb enough.
Flip what they just got for DJM + other picks/assets (Zac, Daniels, whatev) to pair their “All-World” PG with a 28 y/o 4x all star, 2x All-NBA “All-World” C
That likely makes the Hawks a solid 6/7/8 seed for the next couple yrs, think that garbage franchise could talk themselves into it. They love the treadmill, love all-stat, no-chance-to-win “Stars”. KAT & Trae would b a phenomenal show.
Spurs are able to pick up Markannen and we are near the top. Spurs should push this trade a Kelen and up to 2 firsts for this guy. Why not? Even if we give something up they still have tons to play with and a very good team that other vets would want to come play for. This would leave Wemby at the center where he's best and add an awesome modern day PF. Can't touch this.
Markkanen has only 1 year left on his contract right? I expect Spurs to hold on to their picks and go after him in 2025 instead
Yeah,wright doesn't want any of ainge
PATFO targeting him via trade would make more sense than waiting for him to hit FA next year.
Their draft capital gives them an advantage over almost every other team in trade talks - especially when the selling team are looking to tank.
In FA that advantage disappears and the Spurs are just one of many teams with cap space who'd be in the running.
Of course him walking in FA after a trade is a risk-factor but that shouldn't happen if PATFO are actually good at their jobs (I'm mashing the doubt button LA Noire-style right now).
I agree that just waiting out till he is a free agent is better than just trading assets right now. Unless there is a fair trade package the spurs FO can live with I would just wait. No need to over bid.
why do people exagerate the number 1 picks. we dont have many and most wont be top 10. Also LM sux
I haven't been able to find a comprehensive explanation for this CBA like for the last one. From looking at the old CBA FAQ, it seems like the Jazz can renegotiate than extend him based on that renegotiated salary but aren't allowed to give him a raise on top of that salary beyond the normal 8 percent. It looks like if the sides waited six months, they could then agree to an extension that included the 40 percent increase. That's not explicitly spelled out in these rules, but it does talk about the importance of the extension and renegotiation being "simultaneous", and in NBA language, that tends to mean "within six months".
Dragging myself out of the weeds, I think the Spurs could trade for Markkanen and offer him an extension in the $82-90M/2 range, with some of that money being added as part of a renegotiation and extension. If they got really aggressive about it, they could probably offer almost $97M/2 for a total contract of $115M/3. That would be them waiving/trading all of their non-guaranteeds a renouncing Mamu. I actually think those types of deals could actually appeal to him, as an actual two-year max contract for him would be $95.8M/2. If the Spurs could get to $85 Million or so in new money, that might tempt him to take it now and have time for another mega deal in three years.
Absolutely Minny will be throwing Towns at Utah in the Lauri proposals. The issue is do the Jazz want a 29 year old empty calories guy on $60m a year. I don’t think so.
Lauri is set to be a FA next summer... but he'll never hit free agency. He either gets renegotiated and extended by Utah in August, or he gets traded (this offseason or at the deadline) and he'll resign before the start of FA next summer.
The problem is Keldon plus our two best FRPs may not be agreeable to Jazz. That was one reason I suggested a player as good as Vassell, our BPA to trade, and more of our less valuable FRPs.
Just wait for him if you really want. Next year should be an easy sell: We're nearing true contention, Wemby entering his third year, one or two lottery picks in a good draft, and a position wide open for you with all the threes you want.
Pretty easy sell. If he doesn't want that, he can skate. No reason to offer much now. I'd put out Keldon, the CHI, the CHA and ask if they're willing to bet he'll extend.
It would be insane to offer a good player for him. You don't have to.
Jazz fans think we’d give Vassell, Keldon, bunch of FRPs for Lauri.
It seems like the best bet for the Spurs is to tamper a little and tell Lauri that if he does not extend with Utah and let’s himself get to FA at end of 24-25 season, the Spurs will give him the full max with their cap space. Does Markannen have that F U at ude in him to screw the Jazz over? Probably not.
What is the max the Jazz can extend him for after that August date?
And what is the max the Spurs could sign him in FA in 2025?
Surely Lauri will see the fit next to Wemby and think that’s his best shot at being a perennial contender while earning max money without the pressure of being the number 1 guy.
And Castle.
on a one year deal LMAO believe me that price will go way down by deadline.. spurs are in a good position right now to wait ainge out
Whoever came up with that trade needs to slit his ing wrists. I can't think of a worse way to piss away one of the best assets from the Murray trade. And a ing pick swap on top of that?
Future Spurs picks aren't worth that much with a developing Wemby. Spurs went 13-14 in the their final 27 games. I still don't do that deal all the same tho.
That article has the Spurs blowing their 2026 pick that has an unprotected swap with Atlanta. It's an insanely stupid proposal.
That is savage.
Why are they trading for him? They’re selling players like a mad Arab at the bazaar. The literally just let a franchise icon go to save money. What’s the after party for them next summer? I can’t imagine they want to jump backup to apron territory.
Realistically I'd give up Keldon and idk about the picks but I'd listen to how many picks. But I wouldn't even budge on more than 2 1st rounders.
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