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You mean Chris Mullin?Ironically...Elie wasn't a very good 3 shooter until Rudy T told him to work on it
You'd think whottt would have read up a little on Elie, wouldn't you?
Softer? AJ didn't take from anyone.
...I seem to recall him making his shots.and he was always the one being dared to shoot...
How did AJ shoot in that 15-2 playoff run?I mean you aren't gojng to now try and argue that AJ's shot feared are you?
Watch the playoffs sometime...watch how teams defend in the playoffs...
Yeah, AJ never nutted up and knocked down shots.Anyone can get out there and run their mouth without actually nutting up when they are left wide open for their entire career...That doesn't make them hard, that doesn't make them a leader...that makes them a mouth.
But hey, you and Pop already said it better than I ever could...
AJ was a coach on the court. Describes his play to a T.
Yeah, he knew the game better than any other player on the team. Which, of course, is rather important at the 1 spot. That's not a liability, except in your world.
You mean Chris Mullin?Ironically...Elie wasn't a very good 3 shooter until Rudy T told him to work on it
You'd think whottt would have read up a little on Elie, wouldn't you?
Um no...
Tell you what...you go get all the guys in NBA history that could run their mouths but couldn't hit a J... you can get all the PG's who started on NBA champions that only hit one playoff 3 pointer in their 20 year career(It's a short list of one by the way)...
And I'll take every bigman that ever was ever stuck with the soft label because he had ty guards. Including Wilt.....well play them...then we'll see who knows what the they are talking about.
Funny you mention Tony Parker and then laud the importance of the three-point shot.
You mean other than Sam Cassell, John Stockton, Derek Fisher and every other Daddy he ever had in the post season.
You recall incorrectly.I seem to recall him making his shots.
From 3? Not all...as per usual.How did AJ shoot in that 15-2 playoff run?
At last...he made one 13 foot shot when he had two MVP bigmen teamed up in the paint and some guys bombing clutch threes.
What a man.
You are right...it was alwasy AJ that was drawing the double teams while Drob choked wide open 13 footers.Yeah, AJ never nutted up and knocked down shots.
AJ's is toxic.
Um...John Wooden knows the game too...that doesn't mean I want to see his ass out there running the point. And if he was and he was out there calling everyone els soft I think he was nothing but mouth too...I'd think he needs to be a coach and get off th ing court.Yeah, he knew the game better than any other player on the team. Which, of course, is rather important at the 1 spot. That's not a liability, except in your world.
Um...I can mention Nazr Mohammed and own AJ's ass when it comes to playoff 3 point shooting.
By that logic, Fisher was TP's daddy in '04. Stockton's a hall of famer and I seem to recall a certain '95 MVP whose ass was kicked regularly by Stockton's teammate.
Anyways, I never said AJ was a Hall of Famer or an All-Star.
Nope.You recall incorrectly.
What the does it matter if the J was from 20 or 23 feet?From 3? Not all...as per usual.
At last...he made one 13 foot shot when he had two MVP bigmen teamed up in the paint and some guys bombing clutch threes.
What a man.
Nah, AJ was knocking down the shots off TD's double teams.You are right...it was alwasy AJ that was drawing the double teams while Drob choked wide open 13 footers.
AJ's is toxic.
Lame. AJ was one of the best point guards in the game when it came to running an offense and setting guys up and a of an athlete.Um...John Wooden knows the game too...that doesn't mean I want to see his ass out there running the point. And if he was and he was out there calling everyone els soft I think he was nothing but mouth too...I'd think he needs to be a coach and get off th ing court.
Fans like you don't deserve the Spurs.
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That's how important that stat is.
Anyways, TP just had his best season by playing the game within 18 feet. I guess he should've been jacking up 3s instead of driving and attacking or dishing.
Only a cracksmoker would worry about the 3 point shot at the 1 spot.
You are kidding right? Based on what?
Pssst Ace...how has Duncan faired against Malone in the playoffs?Stockton's a hall of famer and I seem to recall a certain '95 MVP who's ass was kicked regularly by Stockton's teammate.
Hint...he needs outside shooting too.
No, what you said was worse...You said he lead us to our first le.Anyways, I never said AJ was a Hall of Famer or an All-Star.
And you tell me I don't understand playoff ball...What the does it matter if the J was from 20 or 23 feet?
um what AJ was, when he wasn't being waived, was a 2nd or 3rd stringer any time he wasn't on a team with David Robinson or Tim Duncan, ...and sometimes even when he was.Lame. AJ was one of the best point guards in the game when it came to running an offense and setting guys up and a of an athlete.
Fans like you don't deserve David Robinson...Fans like you don't deserve the Spurs.
You deserve...Avery Johnson as your best player...for all eternity and OT.
You deserve.....the 96-97 Spurs in all their tough, best in the league, know the game, glory.
TP doubled AJ's career 3 point total like 2 games ago...in like one half...beating the buzzer. And yes, it was important.
And only a newbie would think AJ had a respectable jumpshot during his career, from any range, or that he took it veryh often even wehn left open...Stop embarrasing yourself and stick to the know the game argument...Only a cracksmoker would worry about the 3 point shot at the 1 spot.
And you'd think TimVP would have seen the irony when he spent all of last season ripping Brent Barry for not taking(what TimVP felt) were wide open shots.
He didn't.
It's not a necessity. TP's proven so this season.
He did in '99. If you don't believe so, you have a bizarre vendetta against AJ.And only a newbie would think AJ had a respectable jumpshot during his career, from any range, or that he took it veryh often even wehn left open...Stop embarrasing yourself and stick to the know the game argument...
Huh?
And talking about Brent Barry, your 3-point loving azz was saying that Spurs fans were wrong to expect more out of him and how Barry was playing like he always did. Now that Barry is playing like he should've played last year, he just shat on all 5,000 posts you made about him last year.
This is how Barry should play. Not that passive Barry last year who was afraid to shoot.
OWNED.
So when AJ played the game within 20 feet and fed the bigs and 3 point shooters that was bad, but when TP does it, it's great.
AJ was also a better distributor than TP, but I guess we shouldn't focus on point guard responsibilities when assessing talent and instead stick to whether or not a player has 3 point range.
Fans like whottt are the worst.
Um...in the playoffs on a team with a dominant big it is a necessity. And TP is being dared to shoot...and he's a of a lot better shooter than AJ was on his best day...he was the first day he stepped on the court. Just imagine...
He really didn't, not even in 99...I guess comparitively you could say he did. About ing time...and all it took was having two MVP bigs in the paint.He did in '99. If you don't believe so, you have a bizarre vendetta against AJ.
Most, if not all, of TP's jumpers in the postseason have come between the free throw line and the top of the key. Pay attention.
Actually, he did. Whatever AJ did to you, I hope it still hurts.He really didn't, not even in 99...I guess comparitively you could say he did. About ing time...and all it took was having two MVP bigs in the paint.
That's funny...it looks to me like Brent Barry took and made more 3 pointers last year, scored more PPG...and generally had better production this year.
Todays trivia question especially for TimVP:
How many 3PA PG per 48 minutes did Barry avg last season? And how many this season?
Shat indeed.
This is how Barry should play. Not that passive Barry last year who was afraid to shoot.
OWNED.
Not owned...back it up with facts.
You can't.
Barry? The so good he's beaten out for a spot in the rotation again and again? And you dog people for sticking up for AJ...? You are truly the worst Spurs fan ever.
When you get old enough...go buy some tapes of Spurs Playoff games featuring the shooting wizardy of Avery Johnson...
You notice, you are the only guy in this thread claiming Avery Johnson had a good jumper...
Actually, he did. Whatever AJ did to you, I hope it still hurts.
LOL...You little Maverick you.
Can anybody tell me what is wrong with bear hugs?
Bearhug defense is suffocating defense. Why is that something offensive?
AJ is a nice fellow and i think he meant no harm.
AJ's jumper was solid in that postseason. If you could actually recall that or had tape you would know. But, hey, all that matters from a point guard is whether he can hit the 3, not if he can run an offense, distribute and set guys up well.
Learn the game first before you type another stroke you bitter clueless clown.
Only whottt would try to argue that pre-trade Barry > post-trade Barry.
Classic.
Sorry, but the only valid comparison is Barry post-trade deadline vs. Barry last year.
I don't have those numbers, and don't know what they would actually show, but my gestalt is that they would show a more aggressive and better shooter.
More aggressive is everything. I think I've said this before: I'm sure nobody has ever gotten on to Brent for taking too many shots. It just took his nearly being traded for him to figure that out.
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