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    From what I've seen, which is admittedly limited, Splitter doesn't look real good offensively but he looks like he will be a very good on and off the ball defender not only at the basket but able to go out on the floor and guard some.

    Another guy it would be nice to get is Biendrins (?sp)

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    He weighs that much???
    He is listed at 258 lbs on rytas website. It should be his weight at the start of the season and I have the feeling when I look picture that he has gain some muscle since that. This guy is scary and looks like a bodybuilder :

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    Well, he'll be real popular with the ladies around here.

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    Wow, we don't even have to photoshop anything for Javtokas when we lose in the playoffs!

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    Wow, we don't even have to photoshop anything for Javtokas when we lose in the playoffs!

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    Wow, we don't even have to photoshop anything for Javtokas when we lose in the playoffs!


    I think people will have forgotten this picture when Javtokas will lose for the first time in 2012.

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    One thing I worry about Javtokas is that his upside is even more limited because he's already in good physical shape. Usually when you bring over a Euro, they get better after the first season or two because they start lifting weight for the first time.

    With RJ, he'll be at 100% of his potential right off the bat.

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    One thing I worry about Javtokas is that his upside is even more limited because he's already in good physical shape. Usually when you bring over a Euro, they get better after the first season or two because they start lifting weight for the first time.

    With RJ, he'll be at 100% of his potential right off the bat.
    Ughhh... no...

    The physical aspect might be already developed, but he still has to know the league, the Spurs' system, his teammates, not to mention the new country, the language (does anyone know how good his English is?). No way he's 100% by the first time he steps on a court, if other players coming from European leagues are any indication.

    The transition issue is really significative, at least that's what every Argentine NBA player I've heard on the matter has said.

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    Javtokas played highschool and college ball in America...his English is really good. I remember being impressed with it when he seeing him interviewed after becoming the ULEB Cup MVP.

    Just from listening...his English is already better than Manu's and he has less of an accent than either of the Slovenians or Parker.


    There is absolutely no language barrier with him...none whatsoever.


    Besides...Pop is an expert on the Soviet Union, and Lithuania was once part of that...Pop may not speak Lithuanian but he and Javtokas probably have a common language somewhere in there.

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    Someone already brought up Toronto, so I'll throw this in. With Toronto winning the number 1 pick there is a good chance that they will pick bargnani, and that could make Charlie Villanueva available. Any takers? What would he cost us?

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    why would that make Villanueva available?

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    why would that make Villanueva available?
    I realize it's unlikely, mostly a what if, and curious what everyone thinks his value might be. Saw the possibility on insider the other day. You need to be a member to view the link.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...had&id=2422019

    TORONTO RAPTORS

    Projected first-round pick: Fifth

    Team needs: Center, point guard

    Analysis: The Raptors have a future. Chris Bosh is going to be an All-Star for many years. The team is roughly $14 million under the cap this summer. It owns a potential top-five pick in the draft. New GM Bryan Colangelo knows how to run a winning organization.

    But there are still some problems.

    In moments, Charlie Villanueva looks like a potential All-Star. His 48-point performance in late March was amazing. But his lack of consistency is frustrating and his best position is Bosh's position.

    Mike James was one of the best point guards in the league this year, but he is a free agent, turns 31 this summer and doesn't look as though he factors into the long-term plans for the franchise.

    So what do the Raptors do?

    With James likely out the door, Jose Calderon is their only legit option at the point. The best point guard in the draft is Marcus Williams, but early to middle lottery is too high to take him. And no one has been able to fill the center role adequately. But this draft is very weak at center and point guard.

    If the Raptors win the lottery, they can have their choice of athletic power forwards, but how does that help their core of Bosh and Villanueva? Colangelo loves Bargnani, but he duplicates Villanueva.

    They also could have their choice of swingmen like Gay or Morrison. But again, I'm not sure either of them would fill a need.

    Don't be surprised if the Raptors put Villanueva on the block for a point guard or center and use their pick to grab a guy like Bargnani.
    Or trade their pick and Joey Graham or Morris Peterson to fill a need that way.
    Last edited by Despot; 05-31-2006 at 07:21 PM.

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    why would that make Villanueva available?
    Because that's 3 different PFs taken with premium picks in 3 years, and Bosh is unlikely to be the one they shop around.

    Still, it's not like Rasho for Villanueva is going to fly, so I don't think this is going to affect the Spurs in any material way

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    Oh, here is the Spurs section of that article, just in case anyone was curious. And yes, it is pure speculation.

    SAN ANTONIO SPURS

    Projected first-round pick: None

    Team needs: Center


    Analysis: The Spurs don't need much, and anything they do need isn't going to be provided by a rookie.

    It's a good thing. The Spurs are sending their first-round pick to New York this year, meaning they'll have to wait until Round 2 to pull an obscure player out of their hat. I can see them going international again, maybe with a guy like Ukrainian big man Olexsiy Pecherov

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    It's a good thing. The Spurs are sending their first-round pick to New York this year, meaning they'll have to wait until Round 2 to pull an obscure player out of their hat. I can see them going international again, maybe with a guy like Ukrainian big man Olexsiy Pecherov
    Pecherov won't be available with the 59th pick.
    He is a first round pick material.
    My guess is that he will be drafted by nets with the 22nd or 23rd pick. (they have send scouts to see him and they like euros).

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    Well, he'll be real popular with the ladies around here.
    Tell Angel that he is married.

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    I don't think Villanueva would be availble just yet. There are plenty of minutes to split between three young bigs and Charlie can moonlight at the 3.

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    Now, you haven't the right to make typos ?
    Please read :
    Scola has maybe even more value than Vujicic.
    Sure, ... since english is my third language I spent some minutes trying to understand your phrase

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    I'd go with 2 years ... just in case you know (called Rasho side effect)

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    It's just a matter of days before Splitter makes his annual pullout from the draft. Even if we trade for a mid 1st-rounder, none of those guys from this ty are really going to help immediately.
    no, please, no again!

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    I don't think Villanueva would be availble just yet. There are plenty of minutes to split between three young bigs and Charlie can moonlight at the 3.
    I think he might be, but only for the right deal. They have holes they want to fill around the perimeter, so if they could get the right pieces back, I bet Colangelo does it in a heartbeat. For example, If Chicago floats Deng, I'm thinking they return that phone call.

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    Spurs should trade Scola for a draft pick that would get them in a position to draft Tiago Splitter. That kid has the level of athleticism you nedd in a small ballbig man. I might be mistake but I don't think he has too long a contract left with Tau.
    Oh, my Godness

    No, no and no Please

    In this move we trade Scola, the Best Player of the Tau Ceramica for a bench player of the same TAU, this is the most ridiculous move then we can do in the History of the Spurs

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    Does anyone know if TAU plays today? I've been trying to find out on ACB.com but it's in spanish.

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    It's a matter of need. Spurs need a flexible defender and rebounder. Splitter has the potentila to fill that role. That is exactly Scola's weaknesses. If Spurs already had their SF/PF type defender/rebounder then sure bring Scola on down.

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    TAU Cerámica - Winterthur F.C. Barcelona 01/06 20:30 in 35 Minutes
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