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An interesting possibility for the Bulls could be Argentina's 6-foot-9-inch Luis Scola, who plays overseas and is a Spurs' draft pick. He's another tough guy in the Nocioni mold and a post player, which doesn't fit with Duncan. Perhaps the Spurs are interested in the Bulls' No. 16 overall pick.
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Actually, we'd be interested in one of: Deng, Nocioni. If Scola's post game is a redundnacy in SA, having two young SFs in Chicago is as well.
This is graded as an EXTREMELY weak draft by all accounts. The 16 pick may not make it out of his rookie contract.
Waiting on what to do with Scola until after the World Championships may be the smart thing. If he has a great tournament it may increase his value either in staying with the Spurs or in trade. Scola is a good back to the basket low post player, at least by European standards where he's great. But he also looks to have a solid mid-range shot, certainly better than Nazr or Rasho, probably even better than Horry. He looks like a very good pick and roll and pick and pop player which would work with Duncan. Defense? Rebounding? That's another matter.
Looks like what will happen with Javtokas will not be known until after the WCs.
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He's asked whether there was a proposal from the Spurs. No direct answer to that, saying that "there are very attractive proposals in Europe ... but yes, playing in the NBA is one of my old dreams, and this year it is quite realistic ... also, Lietuvos Rytas proposes me a contract as well" ...
Finally, he says that he doesn't plan to have a contract prior to World Championship in Japan - all things most probably will be resolved thereafter.
He would be good If the Spurs continue with the small ball. You keep Duncan as Center and Scola as PF. The issue is that it would be nicer a PF with longer range, so you have a inside-outside post players.
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gus how limited is Scola's effective range? Is his range limited to the degree it is becuase of form/ability or is it just that he's his teams', Tau and Argentina, best/near only low post option. Can he extend his range?
That still presents defensive shortcomings against Dirk, and doesn't really improve our rebounding deficit.
Nocioni or Deng would be great. Imagine Nocioni and Gino together.
We weren't having a lot of effectiveness against Dirk with anyone. Question is can he hurt Dirk on the offensive end a bit. Maybe even stick a couple of fouls on him. DIrk probably can't post Scola up. He probably can shoot over him but no more so than Finley. He can go around him and get to the basket. I think Scola could do a better job o boxing Dirk out and rebounding than Finley or Bowen.
Figure Nocioni to be virtually impossible to pry loose, and even Deng probably requires more than we are willing to part with.
If there's somebody the front office wants with #16, and we wouldn't be able to bring Scola in anyway because we're going to use our midlevel for something else, we could do worse.
Another possiblity might be something like Scola + Oberto for #16 + Duhon.
who would you take at 16 then?
Quite possibly no one that would help us this year. But I think that stocking our farm system is also worthwhile.
Saer Sene would be a possibility, as would Marcus Vinicius. With Vinicius, we could probably trade down from #16 and pick up another second rounder.
Tiago Splitter might be available at #16, but I don't know when he could actually be bought out and brought over.
If we got someone to play this year, It would be nice to have Shelden Williams's rebounding and blocking. Alternatively, Shawne Williams is an undermotivated and raw long 3 with Tremendous Upside Potential(TM) -- I don't love undermotivated guys, but at least we'd be addressing a need.
What use would the Spurs give to Duhon?
I just don't know. In the last Olympics he showed an improvement in mid range jumpers, however I wouldn't say that he is a consistant shooter. I think that he has very good post moves. This year I didn't see him often to say that how is he shooting the mid-long range jumpers. Anyway it is true what you say, that he play mainly in the Post in Tau.
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I think picnroll said it best, Scola would box Dirk out much better then both Finley and Bowen could. Dirk had way too many offensive rebounds in the series and some of them were huge down the stretch.
IMO the Spurs should try everything to get Scola over for next season. If Scola does arrive, I think Pop should really consider a starting front court of Duncan and Scola along with Bowen.
What I've seen of Scola he's quite mobile and quick for his position. I think he could for instance guard guys like Dirk pretty well. Combine his height and strength along with his decent quickness he should be quite able to guard Dirk, at least not any worse then Bowen and Finley did.
Awesome, our hopes of getting back to the top rely on a guy who has never played NBA ball.
Duncan couldn't even touch Dirk without getting a foul call in the WC semis, and you guys think an undersized rookie PF from Argentina/Europe is going to waltz in and be our Dirk stopper?
Why the obsession with Dirk stoppers?
Spurs didn't let Dirk have his 40 as Pop was preaching, if that was our intention, then JT, Stack, VanHorn, and Howard wouldn't have hurt us as much. Dirk cannot be stopped, all the Spurs need is a forward who can mix it up in the offensive end, an athletic PG, and a tall SF.
Hopefully the newcomers will be able to hit FTs, when you lose by 1 or 2 points, it's only a matter of details.
Because the Spurs need to be able to put Bowen on Jason Terry, Josh Howard, or Jerry Stackhouse. It's not so much that they need to stop Dirk as that they need to remedy the matchup problems that render their defense impotent.
No way do I think Scola could be a Dirk stopper. I would like to see somone who might be able to take advantage of Dirk's piss poor post defense on the other end though.
What options do the Spurs have. You think Javtokas is ging to be more successful at guarding Dirk? More than Duncan? And what is he going to do for you at the offensive end against Dirk? I'd trade Scola in a heartbeat for Varejao but that ship passed.
If Horry could keep it decent on the offensive end, Spurs would be cruising right now to the finals. Having 2 offensive liabilities (SF and C) plus the thin bench, Barry and VanExel hurt us against the Mavs. Spurs need to get more athletic, finding Dirk stoppers is a pipe dream.
If the Spurs get the 16th pick, you take 7-0 Nemanja Alexsandrov SF.
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This article is written by Sam Smith, this guy is as credible as Hoopsworld.An interesting possibility for the Bulls could be Argentina's 6-foot-9-inch Luis Scola, who plays overseas and is a Spurs' draft pick. He's another tough guy in the Nocioni mold and a post player, which doesn't fit with Duncan. Perhaps the Spurs are interested in the Bulls' No. 16 overall pick.
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