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    diaw yes, amare no...besides, why do you guys care so much if amare plays? you really want to win a game that way? why ruin a great series?
    I want to see a full strength game, but if Horry is suspended for breaking a rule then so should Amare and Diaw (btw - Amare went farther on the court than Diaw and was more aggressive before his coaches wrangled him). Do you think Horry should not be suspended?

    It's the mother ing principle of the matter.

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    Damn...someone already posted it and it's been discussed to the ground...geez...i'll just sit and watch now...

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    Is it just me or does it seem like Spurs fans are hiding behind the "letter of the law" argument because they're scared to see the Suns at full-strength in Game 5?

    Do you fail to realize the disappointment that would be Game 5 to rob two key players of their chance to sit on the bench because they walked out of the bench area?

    It's weak to think that their actions are worse than Horry's... who also threw the elbow at Raja Bell, while Bell got a tech.

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    Because if that happened D'Antoni will be out of the NBA.
    Maybe so but the Suns win the Series and Ivaroni takes over. All im sayin is that kind of action becomes a possibility if they suspend Diaw and Amare. Its not like they ran onto the floor and started throwin blows. Diaw never crossed the out of bounds line and stat walked gingerly over to where Nash was.

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    diaw yes, amare no...besides, why do you guys care so much if amare plays? you really want to win a game that way? why ruin a great series?
    What do you mean Amare no watch the replay he was on the court so he has to be run for game 5, the rule is what it is.

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    Is it just me or does it seem like Spurs fans are hiding behind the "letter of the law" argument because they're scared to see the Suns at full-strength in Game 5?

    Do you fail to realize the disappointment that would be Game 5 to rob two key players of their chance to sit on the bench because they walked out of the bench area?

    It's weak to think that their actions are worse than Horry's... who also threw the elbow at Raja Bell, while Bell got a tech.

    Well it's ing obvious that the Suns are good on their own court. They were handed this game on our home court. I require retribution!!!

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    Well, at least we've gotten to a point where people can no longer call the Spurs "boring".

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    So if the Spurs played stupid tonight, why should AMare and Boris catch a break for reacting stupidly?

    that logic.

    Travelmire was so obviously lying in the interview.

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    Please someone show me where the rules specifically states- stepping onto the court, as I have not been able to find it. Everyone keeps sayng the letter of the law, but I don't think the law even says that.

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    Is it just me or does it seem like Spurs fans are hiding behind the "letter of the law" argument because they're scared to see the Suns at full-strength in Game 5?
    I guess your team has been scared this entire series and they've had video sent to the league to review in order to have one of our players suspended. Get the out of here.

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    I want to see a full strength game, but if Horry is suspended for breaking a rule then so should Amare and Diaw (btw - Amare went farther on the court than Diaw and was more aggressive before his coaches wrangled him). Do you think Horry should not be suspended?

    It's the mother ing principle of the matter.
    Horry didn't just "break a rule." He nearly broke Steve Nash. Go back to writing your column about the 3-1 Bulls tomorrow, Kevin before you ruin this thread anymore.

    You have to think that Stern and the boys upstairs will be looking at the context of the event and determine that both those guys' main intent was probably to attend to their MVP lying on the ground.

    Besides, if they do that, they always have the power to change the rules in June.

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    Maybe so but the Suns win the Series and Ivaroni takes over. All im sayin is that kind of action becomes a possibility if they suspend Diaw and Amare. Its not like they ran onto the floor and started throwin blows. Diaw never crossed the out of bounds line and stat walked gingerly over to where Nash was.
    Means nothing check Knicks in 97 buddy, Ewing had his pink toe on the court and he was gone the next game and so will Amare be gone as well.

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    Did you not watch the game? Nash got up running at Horry, Bell elbowed Horry from the side before Horry elbowed Bell in the chest. In NBA terms, that's an altercation.
    No, Bell did not elbow him in the side and Horry elbowed him in the throat, not the chest.

    Your Ben Wallace headband is shielding your eyes.

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    he was on the court so he has to be run for game 5, the rule is what it is.
    Citation to the rule?

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    Citation to the rule?
    HUH??

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    Means nothing check Knicks in 97 buddy, Ewing had his pink toe on the court and he was gone the next game and so will Amare be gone as well.
    I seriously hope you are right. Game 5 is going to be all about who can control their emotions better. I like the Spurs in that contest. But first justice must be served on both sides.

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    The more I watch this the more I'm convinced they are gone.

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    If the NBA does not suspend them then they can't suspend Horry, and have to rescind all past suspensions as well as never make another suspension again for any reason. They will have set the precedent that the rule can be broken and no punishment given. You want to see an NBA game where the players know they can up anyone and go into full scale riots with players, coaches, and fans without getting penalized by the NBA?

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    If the league suspends Amare and Diaw it would be a travesty. It would be completely unfair to the Suns regardless of how the rule is written. The league should take the stance that they were going to check back into the game. That way no suspension would be given and they still can save face.
    Thats not saving face

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    Obivously, there is much opinion regarding this hot topic. As a Spurs fan, I am dissapointed in Horry's hard foul tonight. However, I honestly believe that many individuals are making it alot worse then what it really was. He did not swing at Nash. He simply leaned his shoulder into Nash and Nash went flying. I think Nash's small size makes the foul look much harder then it really was. Again, that don't excuse Horry's actions. He started everything and should be punished. I am trying to be fair even though I am a Spurs fan. This is what I think should happen...

    Robert Horry, suspended for the remainder of the series

    Amare and Diaw, suspended for one game. They both stepped on the court. If Amare would have stayed on the black part of the court while "checking in, " he would have been excused. However, he didn't.

    Bell, fined by the league. Some say that he threw an elbow at Horry first...If he did, he deserves to be suspended as well. However, I did not see this and I am going by what I saw.

    Nash, fined by the league. He did get up and go after Horry.

    Any other Spurs player that left the bench deserves a one game suspension as well.

    This is what I think should happen. Obviously, the Suns don't get much help. However, these players violated different rules and deserve to be punished. Again, I am trying to be fair about everything and I believe this is fair. The NBA has to do something about this series cause it's getting out of hand...

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    I don't want to see any suspensions for the Suns. The Spurs don't deserve a break.

    The Spurs played like b1tches and now deserve to be forced to climb uphill to salvage this series.

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    Horry didn't just "break a rule." He nearly broke Steve Nash. Go back to writing your column about the 3-1 Bulls tomorrow, Kevin before you ruin this thread anymore.

    You have to think that Stern and the boys upstairs will be looking at the context of the event and determine that both those guys' main intent was probably to attend to their MVP lying on the ground.

    Besides, if they do that, they always have the power to change the rules in June.
    They've made it clear in the past that there is no context to this, especially after what happened in the Palace. , they suspended Patrick Ewing for putting half of one of his size 22s on the court.

    If you're going to argue context, I'm going to argue the context of Horry's foul. It really wasn't that flagrant, it just looked that way in the context of a shrimp like Nash getting bounced off of a 6'9" guy and exaggerating the contact to draw a flagrant foul call from the officials and ice the game.

    See, isn't 'context' fun?

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    No, Bell did not elbow him in the side and Horry elbowed him in the throat, not the chest.

    Your Ben Wallace headband is shielding your eyes.
    I saw it the way I said it. It wasn't the throat, it was the chest and then glanced upwards. Who ing cares anyway? Both threw intentional shots and both need to be suspended.

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    No, Bell did not elbow him in the side and Horry elbowed him in the throat, not the chest.

    Your Ben Wallace headband is shielding your eyes.

    dude this whole thread is about the spurs "just wanting whats fair" in suspending diaw and amare, regardless of the fact that they didnt do anything.. and that horrys flagrent was nothing but a "nice hard foul"

    own the up homers.

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    Wow. It's amazing how fast this gets onto video.


    That looks like a frustration foul to me. I've seen that 100+ times. What's sad is, we're going to spend the next few days discussing this vs. basketball.


    By the way, that's probably the most "phyisical" thing that the Suns have seen in this series.

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