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    I never said Steele had a bad reputation before the dossier. Why do you lie?
    So Steele had a good reputation.

    Do you think Steele was hired to make up things better than Fusion GPS could on it's own?

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    Are you aware of the FISC court ever granting a warrant to spy on a presidential campaign knowing the evidence was funded and provided by the opposing campaign? If you’re answer is no, would that then make such a thing significant?
    You need to provide other FISA applications to make that argument.

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    Are you aware of a FISA court granting a warrant to spy on a Presidential campaign knowing the evidence was politically funded, but thinking it was funded by that campaign?
    The court was never told it was politically funded.

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    You need to provide other FISA applications to make that argument.
    They don’t exist, therefore it’s significant.

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    List the lies from the Nunes memo one by one. I’ll wait.

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    So Steele had a good reputation.

    Do you think Steele was hired to make up things better than Fusion GPS could on it's own?
    Steele was hired to give the dossier a appearance of credibility. Steele is not credible.

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    The court was never told it was politically funded.
    they told them the research was meant to discredit the trump campaign

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    Sorry, question pending.

    What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?
    The court has never granted a warrant to spy on a presidential campaign based on opposition dirt funded by the opposing campaign.

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    they told them the research was meant to discredit the trump campaign
    Was the court ever told it was politically funded yes or no?

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    Was the court ever told it was politically funded yes or no?
    No.

    What would be the significance of the court being told it was politically funded?

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    The court has never granted a warrant to spy on a presidential campaign based on opposition dirt funded by the opposing campaign.
    Has the court ever granted a warrant to spy on a presidential campaign based on opposition dirt funded by someone other than the opposing campaign?

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    so you agree with me yet laugh at that fact? You’re strange.

    What would be the significance of the court being told it was politically funded?
    Already answered two posts above.

    If you agree the court was never told it was politically funded I’m not sure what you found so funny.

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    so you agree with me yet laugh at that fact? You’re strange.
    Fence sniper

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    Has the court ever granted a warrant to spy on a presidential campaign based on opposition dirt funded by someone other than the opposing campaign?
    I’m not aware of the FISC granting any warrant to spy on any campaign. Are you?

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    They don’t exist, therefore it’s significant.
    You can't use your lack of evidence as evidence.

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    I’m not aware of the FISC granting any warrant to spy on any campaign. Are you?
    This warrant wasn't for spying on a campaing. You got me there.

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    I’m not aware of the FISC granting any warrant to spy on any campaign. Are you?
    so if you're not aware, it doesn't exist

    I'm sure tranny J Edgar Hoover had his corrupt FBI spy on everybody, including Pres candidates and campaigns, is how he stayed in power for 40 years. Are "you aware" of that?

    and even if Trash's was the first Pres campaign tatooed with FISA warrants, so what?

    FISA been around since the 1980 campaign. JEH FBI spy goes back to 1919.
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    No.

    What would be the significance of the court being told it was politically funded?
    IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE I SAID IT IS SIGNIFICANT

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    so you agree with me yet laugh at that fact? You’re strange.
    I agree that they weren't told who specifically funded. I laugh at how you make it seem like it is a game changer.

    Already answered two posts above.
    Two posts above you just said (with nothing to corroborate) that the court has never granted a warrant under those cir stances.

    That doesn't answer my question. Why would that information be relevant to the FISA judges?

    If you agree the court was never told it was politically funded I’m not sure what you found so funny.
    answered above in this post

    what's the significance of knowing it was politically funded?


    you keep dodging so i'll answer. it's significant because it would alert the judge to potential bias in the source, and the judge would then look at the claims with more scrutiny. By informing the court that the information was collected in an effort to discredit the trump campaign, the judge was alerted to potential bias in the source, and therefore likely looked at the claims with more scrutiny.

    and he granted the warrant anyway.

    and it was granted 4 times by 4 different republican judges

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    I’m not aware of the FISC granting any warrant to spy on any campaign. Are you?
    nah not really.

    but then that sorta calls into question your position that the disclosure of the precise source of funding would typically be such a difference maker

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    Steele was hired to give the dossier a appearance of credibility. Steele is not credible.
    Steele is very credible. That is why you fail.

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    You can't use your lack of evidence as evidence.
    You mean like trying to say all the redacted portions of the FISA application you can’t see somehow supports your theory the FBI did it by the book? That kind of lack of evidence as evidence?

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    Steele is very credible. That is why you fail.
    is that why the FBI terminated him and he’s facing multiple lawsuits for defamation?

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    This warrant wasn't for spying on a campaing. You got me there.
    Sure it was. Do you not understand a le 1 warrant?

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    The court was never told it was politically funded.
    But The Washington Post reported late Friday night that the court that approved the warrant was aware at the time that the dossier's production was politically motivated.

    One official with knowledge of the matter told The Post that the DOJ made "ample disclosure of relevant, material facts" to the FISC which revealed "the research was being paid for by a political en y."

    "No thinking person who read any of these applications would come to any other conclusion" other than that the dossier's production was carried out "at the behest of people with a partisan aim and that it was being done in opposition to Trump," they added.

    The revelation appears to corroborate claims made in a 10-page rebuttal memo crafted by Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee. Sources told The New York Times on Friday that the Democratic memo also says the FBI informed the FISC that the dossier was politically motivated, but did not reveal which political en y specifically financed it.
    Not my understanding. Have I missed something?
    https://www.businessinsider.com/nune...ebunked-2018-2

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